Topic: Attack on US:
Reaction and Recovery (formerly check in thread) part 2
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By plumeria
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09-12-2001,
06:39 PM |
Please check in and let us know how you're doing.
And a reminder to please read the Admin "How FF Members can
help" message at the top of the board.
Please feel free to take this candle icon back to your
"home" threads, and spread the light:
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By JKBosco
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09-12-2001,
06:49 PM |
Emily from CT checking in to say that I'm ok, just scared and
of course upset.
What color ribbon symbolizes this event? If anyone knows of
an offcial color, please PM me or e-mail me at
JKBosco@aol.com.
I'm adding all of you Roswellians and any oher fan foru
members to my prayers. I just keep thinking how lucky I am.
For Carlton, Dave and Katie, and America.
Emily
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By Xenutia
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09-12-2001,
06:55 PM |
Another UK fan checking in to see how everybody's holding up.
Everybody over here is deeply shocked about what's
happened, and is thinking of you all in the US that are
affected by this. I suppose that statement is in the eye of
the beholder, though - everybody has been affected by this in
some way, even if just by shock, like me. My heart is with all
the victims and their families and friends.
If it's okay I'd like to offer one thought - it goes out
especially to those who have lost people or are still waiting
to hear.
If you have a belief in God, or even if you'd like to but
aren't sure what to think, I just want to share one scripture
which seems to have a double relevance to me. It also follows
on from similar thought from revelation which have already
been posted on the previous thread.
John 5:29,29 Do not marvel at this, because the hour is
coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his
(Jesus') voice and come out, those who did good things to a
resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a
resurrection of judgement.
I'd like to think of this as hope for the future; that we
will see those who were lost again, and also that those
responsible will be brought to justice. We as humans will do
what we can, but it's comforting to know that if we can't
bring about even a temporary solution, there's somebody (God)
who will make sure it comes right.
I hope I've not offended anybody by offering my thoughts
here. I realise it may be the wrong thing to say, but it's all
I can think of.
All my condolences again, and I'm truly amazed by the
supportive nature of my fellow FF posters. I think we've
something to be proud of in the way we've all been here for
each other. If anybody wants to talk about what I've posted,
or just to vent, PM me. I should be around for a few hours at
least.
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By roswell_mk
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09-12-2001,
06:59 PM |
Guys, this was just read on the radio and it brought me to
tears, so I thought I'd share:
America: The Good Neighbor.
Widespread but only partial news coverage was given
recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by
Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What
follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed
in the Congressional Record:
"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the
Americans as the most generous and possibly the least
appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a
lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris
of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is
today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the
United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in
1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward
was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was
there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is
the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59
American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody
helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped
billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers
in those countries are writing about the decadent,
warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those
countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United
States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country
in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the
Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they
fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly
American planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider
putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese
technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German
technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American
technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but
several times - and safely home again. You talk about
scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store
window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are
not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and
most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are
getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.
When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking
down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When
the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke,
nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can
name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of
other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when
someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think
there was outside help even during the San Francisco
earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked
around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high.
And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the
lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope
Canada is not one of those."
Stand proud, America!
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By
Roswell_Lvr15 |
09-12-2001,
06:59 PM |
BuffyAngelFan04 I need your help what is the name of the song
this song:his was a song written a couple years ago "In the
City of God there will be great thunder, two brothers torn
apart by chaos, while the fortress endures, the great
leader will succumb.","The third big war will begin when
the big city is burning." - Nostradamus
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By
cambriagirl |
09-12-2001,
07:08 PM |
Just checking in to say hi from Queens, NY. The last two days
were just unbelievable and my heart goes out to everyone in
this tragedy. My sister and I were lucky to get transportation
to our area and thank goodness we made it home safe. We
received many calls from concerned family and friends.
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By Rel
Kiltalpha |
09-12-2001,
07:24 PM |
As you all know, yesterday, September 11, 2001, terrorists
attacked NYC and Washington DC. It was horrible. I live in NYC
and even though I never saw the crash itself, just hearing
about it shocked me. I was sitting in my school bus, which was
ironically was stuck in a car accident when I first heard. My
bus driver had slowed our bus due to the slowing of a car in
front of us when a car in back of us slammed into our bus.
Everyone was fine though. We thought this was the 'highlight'
of the day - we'd be able to go around school and tell all our
friends why we didn't arrive till a half hour into the second
period. WE WERE WRONG.
The first time I had heard what had happened, we were
boarding the 'D' Bus which had come to pick us up from our
bus. Two of the students had borrowed our driver's radio and
were broadcasting the news to everyone. And even then, the
full extent of the incident hadn't occured.
I think it was about homeroom, after third period, around
ten-thirty when word truely reached my school in the Bronx.
After that, chaos. Students crying in the hallways, teachers
trying to maintain normal class, never actually succeeding. I
myself had an aunt who, at the time, I believed only worked in
the area. Later that day, I found out she worked in the 35th
floor of the South Tower of the World Trade Center. My family
was lucky. She was running late for work and therefore never
made it to the Towers. I don't want to imagine what it would
be like if she did.
At some point, all of the teachers, except for a handful
had given up on teaching us. We went from class to class,
listening to updates on our situation through the PA system,
watching televisions or listening to radios if our classes had
them. Cell phones would ring in the middle of periods. No one
cared if we were late or walked out in the middle of class.
Even my AP US History teacher, the hardest teacher in the
school, just sat in his chair, listening. It was so
frightening.
Then came the worst part. They were blocking all traffic
into Manhattan. I go to the Bronx High School of Science and
our students come from not only the Bronx, but Queens,
Brooklyn, and Manhattan too. Not allowing traffic in Manhattan
meant I couldn't get home.
Again, I was fortunate. Even though my school was
organizing dinner and if needed, sleeping arrangements, for
those who couldn't get home, my mother's friend in upstate NY
agreed to come and allow three of my friends and I to spend
the night at his house. Were we ever grateful not to have to
stay at our school to who knows what hour. His family was nice
and provided us with everything we'd need to have a
comfortable night.
We made it home today. To Manhattan, to our families, who
were all alright, thank God. To see a huge cloud of smoke in
place of where the Twin Towers once stood. I can't believe
that yesterday morning, everything seemed perfect. It seemed
like the only thing I had to worry about was being late to
school. It's scary how fast life can change in an instant.
I'll never forget anything that's happened yesterday. I'm sure
no one will.
My condolenses and sympathies to everyone who suffered in
this tradedy. I wish the best to everyone.
-Jen
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By SaucerGuy
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09-12-2001,
07:29 PM |
Hi. I've been lurking on these boards for about a month now
learning how and what to post. I was ready to make my first
real post to one of the topics, when I happened to turn on the
TV.
Needless to say, any posting went out the window, as I
watched the events unfold. I can only express my deepest
condolences all of you in the States.
Just to let you know, we've had 47 planes land at our small
airport in Halifax, and the city is sheltering almost 9,000
travellers here. Everybody is pitching in donating blood and
helping at the shelters. I volunteered for the Red Cross at
one shelter today helping people on a flight from Greece who
had only bee taken off their plane early this morning. They
had been on the plane for over 14 hours, and many of them were
elderly. We got them sqaured away, and many of them have been
taken in by members of the Greek community here. I guess it's
a really tightly-knit community.
Anyway, they probably won't be on their way for at least
another day. I've got to catch some zzzz's, and hope to be
able to post on here later under more auspicious
circumstances, and get to know some of you.
Cheers.
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By
StarryEyedGypsy |
09-12-2001,
07:39 PM |
I just want to thank you for all that you are doing to support
those in NY and Washington. I am a native New Yorker who now
lives in NJ just outside of Philadelphia. I still have a lot
of family and friends in New York and my cousin is one of the
brave fire fighters who is saving lives and clearing
wreckage. The Red Cross is a wonderful place to start to show
support. Giving blood is crucial, but money is desperatley
needed. Even though the death toll has not been released my NY
family tells me it is very high. So money is needed for these
families. Thanks for caring and God Bless all of you.
Julia
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By sars |
09-12-2001,
07:54 PM |
Hello, this is sars checking in from Chicago, IL. Living in
the 3rd largest city in the United States had me a little
worried since Chicago may have been a target, but Chicago was
spared this horrible tragedy.
i'd like to speak on behalf of the Asian Invasion Thread
and say our prayers and thoughts are with the victims of this
senseless tragedy. We grieve for the victims in NYC,
Washington DC, Pennsylvania, and the passengers in the 4
airliners that perished yesterday.
Sept. 11, 2001 -- another day that I fear will live in
infamy. We Find Strength In Each Other.
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By MAGO CLOW
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09-12-2001,
07:57 PM |
Folks!
I'm shocked!!! It's so unreal! I never could imagine that
happened!
My condolences for all Americans.
MAGO CLOW
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By
foreverdreamer |
09-12-2001,
08:10 PM |
this is foreverdreamer, just checking in to see if everyone is
ok. i'm in michigan, but even here, the fear of what was
happening in NY and washington was everywhere. a lot of our
governmental and executive buildings were evacuated like many
and at school we basically just watched CNN to see if there
were any updates. my heartfelt regret and prayers go out to
any of those who have lost anyone in this tragedy, actually
experienced it, have family that went through this, etc. i
made a banner which i put on my site and i just linked it to a
site i found that provided info on how to help out. if you
want, you can put it on your own site, to just help out. i,
unfortunately am not old enough to give blood, so there isn't
much i can do to help, but i'm trying to do what little i can.
so if you use it, just link it to somewhere you know can
provide information on how to help.
god bless and you all!
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By joeygurl
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09-12-2001,
08:12 PM |
My thoughts and prayers go out to the families and friends of
the victims.. I can't believe what a catastrophic event this
is. My friend's father was in building one, the seventh floor
when the plane struck. He made it out fine, but that just
makes it so real, and the all more frightening. I have so many
thoughts racing around in my mind at the moment that I don't
know where to begin. I live about an hour from the city, and
with everything closed down around me today.. I can't even
find the words to describe how I'm feeling. I'm sure none of
us really can. I just want to say that I'm here, I'm okay, and
I hope everyone else is, too.
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By Kare |
09-12-2001,
08:13 PM |
Plu, it's ironic...I made this banner to post on this thread
tonight without realizing you had put up a candle for us to
take to our own threads. I guess we're all thinking alike
tonight.
I know I speak for all of my Cliffie family when I say we
all are thinking of those lost in this tragedy...and hope that
days of peace and happiness are ahead for the United States
and the rest of the free world.
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By Supergal
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09-12-2001,
08:16 PM |
BuffyAngelFan04 Im so sorry for your loss. God is with your
father, grandmother and neighbor at this time, i know it.
DAMN THOSE MURDERERS!!!
If they only knew the pain they cause to others!
GOD HELP AMERICAN FIND AND KILL THOSE RESPONSIBLE!!!
Super-G
WHERE IS MAX'S HEALING POWER AND SUPERMAN WHEN YOU NEED
THEM???
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By
BrendansWinnipegChick |
09-12-2001,
08:22 PM |
Buffy: I am so sorry about your loss. My prayers are with you
and your family. God Bless.
I am still waiting to hear from a friend about her dad and
where his airplane landed. And I am waiting to hear from a
friend who lives in NYC.
For any Candians who wish to donate blood, please contact
1-888-2-DONATE and http://www.bloodservices.ca to find out
where you can donate. Please keep in mind not to contact your
local blood donation services for they will be inendated with
blood. If you can get through ask about making an appointment
so maybe you can avoid the line-ups. Myself personally cannot
give blood due to medical reasons, but I am asking all who can
to give blood. It's what's in you and you can help save a
life.
M
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By
TeflonCandygirl |
09-12-2001,
08:30 PM |
I'm here. I'm from NJ and was affected by this tragedy. I've
posted my story on many of these threads so if anyone wants to
read it, it's on Roswell 1, feel free. My prayers are with
everyone through this terrible time. God bless.
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By Reggie |
09-12-2001,
08:31 PM |
quote:Originally posted by SaucerGuy: I was ready to make
my first real post to one of the topics, when I happened to
turn on the TV.
Just to let you know, we've had 47 planes land at our small
airport in Halifax, and the city is sheltering almost 9,000
travellers here. Everybody is pitching in donating blood and
helping at the shelters. I volunteered for the Red Cross at
one shelter today helping people on a flight from Greece who
had only been taken off their plane early this morning.
Thank you, and thank all of you who have been helping. Even
a kind word, even to those of us miles from any danger, is
welcome.
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By Go*fish
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09-12-2001,
08:44 PM |
SaucerGuy and Rel Kiltalpha and many other posters from thread
one too, thanks so much for sharing your experiences with us.
The efforts and participation of communities such as yours has
not been televised yet and a lot of the rest of the world (as
I wasn't) are not aware of the domino effect of the tragedy of
the plane crashes. The hundreds of passengers on planes forced
to land in unscheduled airports are all needing assistance too
and its nice to hear communities such as yours (and your
friends Rel Kiltalpha) are stepping up.
Buffyangelfan04 I just read your message and I cannot
express how sad I am for you and your family, please give your
sister, Mum and other family, hugs and tell them that your
friends the world over on Fan Forum are crying and thinking of
them too.
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By ballyhoo
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09-12-2001,
08:54 PM |
Once in Persia reigned a king Who upon his signet
ring Graved a maxim true and wise, Solemn words, and
these are they: "Even this shall pass away." {Tilton}
I just want to check in, say I'm okay. I live in NC and was
not physically affected by what happened in NYC and DC, but I
was getting ready for my graveyard shift last night and my
sister called to tell me the news. I had been asleep all day
yesterday and didn't know what had happened. Needless to say,
I was shocked beyond belief. I watched that plane go into the
WTC and couldn't believe my eyes! It was just too surreal. I
was crying, I just couldn't believe that someone would do this
to us. When you hurt one part of America, you hurt us all and,
as we saw after Pearl Harbor, it just pisses us off.
Whoever did this, will not break us, we will only become
stronger through this.
BuffyAngelFan I want to send my deepest condolences.
You're in my prayers, honey.
Also, I'm a nurse and just want to encourage everyone to
give blood, money, whatever you can. The hospital I work at is
on alert to send nurses and doctors if needed.
Praying for everyone. May we all have the fortitude to get
through this tragedy.
Now the Lord of peace himself give you peace always and by
all means. II Thessalonians 3:36
Sorry for the long post. Katy
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By Roswell
Behr |
09-12-2001,
09:15 PM |
This all so strange and horifying. I have family in the DC
area who were all evacuated and they're all ok, but I have an
uncle who, before he changed jobs recently, could have been in
the section of the Pentagon that was hit. I consider myself
soo lucky and my heart goes out to those who weren't so lucky.
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By 4everyoung
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09-12-2001,
09:26 PM |
I have found a computer and am checking in. I can say nothing
except that I am glad you are all here . My eyes have seen
things I will never forget, I have tasted fear in a way that
can not be imagined, and I wonder how I made it out. My heart
aches for those who didn't. I applaud the firemen, policemen,
doctors, nurses and volunteers who were there to help us. I
will never forget my first visit to NYC.
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By Vilandra
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09-12-2001,
09:34 PM |
BuffyAngelFan I'm so sorry sweetie, if you need to talk, you
can PM me anytime. You and your family is in my
prayers.
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By Tesseract
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09-12-2001,
09:38 PM |
On behalf of the Filipino Embassy at Roswell, Id like to
express our sorrow and shock over the disaster that happened
two days ago. We are all concerned and worried about you guys.
Most of us have relatives and friends in the States and we
cant help but worry about those who are directly affected by
this senseless tragedy.
Condolences and prayers go out to those directly affected
by the tragedy. Words, I understand, can never be enough to
express the horror and grief you must be feeling.
Our prayers and thoughts are with you.
Behrsgal4evar: Condolences on your loss.
Please pray also for sidera, who is in the hospital,
recuperating from injusries incurred from being in the
vicinity while it happened.
Hugs from the
Philippines http://www.barrysclipart.com/thm/6/WB/zed_non_com/clipconxn/animations/light/0473.thm.gif
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By
AFlightyLittlePrincess |
09-12-2001,
09:42 PM |
I live in New York,and I've been talking about this everywhere
else except Fan Forum really,so please forgive me if I
don't have much to add. It's suspected thousands are now
dead and the Palestinian Community welcomed it.
I'm fine and everyone I know to this point I am pretty sure
are all fine as well.
I heard today 6 people were saved from what was left of the
towers.That is something to be thankful for.
I am upset and incredibly sickened by this turn of
events.However I feel we have no right to hate despite this.In
fact I pray for the individuals souls who have thought this a
triumph.
I extend my best wishes and prayers to anyone who was
effected by this tragedy.
Pray,and give blood if you can.Come together and we'll be
all the stronger for it.
This country is FAR from perfect,but our spirits will not
be crushed.We can endure,we can overcome.
~ Leslie
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By Roswell
Angel |
09-12-2001,
09:50 PM |
Revelation 18:17-19 For in one hour so great riches is come
to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships,
and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar
off, And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning,
saying, What city is like unto this great city! And they
cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing,
saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich
all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for
in one hour is she made desolate.
BuffyAngelFan and everyone else who has lost loved
ones, my prayers are with you & your families.
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By haniczka
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09-12-2001,
09:59 PM |
4everyoung, such sad circumstances, but I'm SO glad to see
you. I'm sure you'll never see NY in the same light. Perhaps
you could try to focus yourself on the amazing strength and
devotion the people of New York are displaying. Maybe that
would help, I mean, everyone is talking about the numbers of
people missing, but look at the heros! They're there, risking
their lives, giving their blood supporting their neighbors,
comforting the anguished the best that they can. I feel proud
to be a part of a country like that.
And all of you posting here, you make me feel proud to be a
Roswell fan. We showed everyone how much we care by giving
thousands to the Pediatric Foundation, and now your support
and condolences from all over the world are incredible.
President George Bush quoted the Psalm: Though I walk through
the valley of the Shadow of Death, I will not fear thou art
with me..." and we are not alone. -HH
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By Reggie |
09-12-2001,
10:14 PM |
Originally posted by AFlightyLittlePrincess: I live in New
York,and I've been talking about this everywhere else except
Fan Forum really, so please forgive me if I don't have much to
add. It's suspected thousands are now dead and the Palestinian
Community welcomed it.
Originally posted by Lightstar Angel, on Check-In
#1: I am equally disgusted by how some of the Palestinians
could be happy about this tragedy as well, but I have a sort
of different perspective on this because I'm half Palestinian
and my father is Palestinian and well as his family back home.
Back home, his family is in shock & horror over what
happened here in NY.
I do not condone what those people are doing by
celebrating, but I would like to urge everyone NOT to point
fingers at a whole population of people and not to let the
anger overtake you. Every culture has good people and bad
people. We have bad Americans and good Americans. So does
Palestine and all other countries. So please do not point
fingers until we have actual proof of who did this.
Hate is what caused this attack and we cannot let hate
continue to grow. My thoughts and prayers are with the people
of NYC, DC, PA & the families of the victims of the
hijacked planes.
You see? Palestinians are just like aliens, or any other
kind of people: some good, some bad. FBI Agent Pierce needed
to learn this... perhaps you just did.
Edited to add: did I hear DocPaul hadn't been heard from
for a while? Was she working as a rescuer, or is she a
possible casualty? I hadn't seen a post from her for months,
so I don't know what threads she has been on
lately...
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By
healersbabe |
09-12-2001,
10:19 PM |
quote:Originally posted by Reggie:
I do not condone
what those people are doing by celebrating, but I would like
to urge everyone NOT to point fingers at a whole population of
people and not to let the anger overtake you. Every culture
has good people and bad people.
Yes, but I nonetheless will support President Bush and UN's
decision to treat countries harbouring these people just as if
they had committeed the act themselves.
May God bless us all
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By
shapeshifter |
09-12-2001,
10:39 PM |
It is so sad about BuffyAngelFan's loss of her father,
grandmother and neighbor. May they not have died in vain as so
many countries that have previously been angry toward America
are now expressing condolences--not that this will stop the
grief.
Part of me wants to see the biggest (non-nuclear) bomb
dropped on Ossama Bin Ladin's head. But then I would rather
that he would live to have a true change of heart, and that
cannot happen if he is dead.
quote:orginally posted on the last thread: ...so please
don't forget a word of prayer for the firefighters, police,
medics, steel workers, ems, and doctors and medical personal,
fema searchers currently putting their lives in danger trying
to save anyone still alive. people like, docpaul who hasn't
been heard from in over 24 hours, and other members of the
first response medical teams who are out there.Has anyone
heard from Docpaul who so patiently answered us on the
psychology-of-Roswell threads?
Another message board for posting and receiving information
on the tragedy is the Disaster Message Service
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By
foreverdreamer |
09-12-2001,
10:40 PM |
Behrsgal4eva and BuffyAngelFan-- my heart goes out to you and
those you have lost and just what you've been going through.
i'll be keeping you in my prayers, and that goes for everyone!
just wanted to post this scripture i turned to when i was
going through my Bible.
"And I am convinced that nothing can ever seperate us from
his love. Death can't and life can't. The angels can't and the
demons can't. Our fears for today, our worries about tomorrow,
and even the powers of hell can't keep God's love away.
Whether we are high above the sky, or in the deepest ocean,
nothing will ever be able to separate us from the love of
God..." --Romans 8:38-39 (NLT)
God bless you all and may He keep you all safe
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By
healersbabe |
09-12-2001,
10:59 PM |
quote:Originally posted by foreverdreamer: Behrsgal4eva and
BuffyAngelFan
"And I am convinced that nothing can ever seperate us from
his love. Death can't and life can't. The angels can't and the
demons can't. Our fears for today, our worries about tomorrow,
and even the powers of hell can't keep God's love away.
Whether we are high above the sky, or in the deepest ocean,
nothing will ever be able to separate us from the love of
God..." --Romans 8:38-39 (NLT)
God bless you all and may He keep you all safe
Originally posted by Melodious1:
My contribution in memorium to the horrible events of Sept.
11.
May God bless us all, and may God give us the patience to
stand together as one indivisable and good.
That was really beautiful!!! My condolences !!
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By mrblood
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09-12-2001,
11:20 PM |
Im so sorry about what has happened in ur country,
i cant say anymore im to upset sorry im sure the uk will
help if there is a war
I LOVE YOU ALL
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By chilenita
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09-12-2001,
11:28 PM |
BuffyAngelFan04 I don't know what to say...I'm really sorry
about your lost...all my prayers are with you
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By sunnibehr
|
09-13-2001,
12:17 AM |
Sunnibehr (R.A.C.S) checking in from Florida. Yesterday and
many days to come will be sad and filled with grief. I'm
also angry and put off by the people (if you can call them
that) who are responsible. I feel sad that so many ppl were
killed in NY and at the Pentagon. Also the ppl that were
fooled by at least two of the terrorist right here in my
state.
BuffyAngelFan- My condolences and prayers are with you and
your family.
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By
razzamatazz |
09-13-2001,
12:21 AM |
For those of you wondering about Doc Paul I just thought I'd
let you know that she was far away from both New York and the
Pentagon at the time the planes struck and the buildings
collapsed. Nor was she on any of the highjacked planes.
However, she has been called in as part of an emergency
medical team - attending the tragedy, in the hopes of giving
aid to those that have survived.
Hope this helps
BAfan: I'm so very sorry to hear about your terrible loss.
Words are inadequate to express how much but you and your
family are in many peoples thoughts and prayers
tonight.
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By MoonFire
|
09-13-2001,
12:25 AM |
Again you amaze me with your open hearts and ability to
comfort one another.
Healersbabe - that fanart pretty much sums up the steadfast
determination and resolve of the people of this country to
stand fast and not be beaten by the yesterday's events.
Again, Thanks to all for your continued efforts in
supporting one another in what has been to say the least a
trying couple of days.
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By
AFlightyLittlePrincess |
09-13-2001,
12:29 AM |
quote:Originally posted by Reggie:[B]
You see? Palestinians are just like aliens, or any other
kind of people: some good, some bad. FBI Agent Pierce needed
to learn this... perhaps you just did.
[B]
I never thought that there were other people that were
capable of this.I mean I had heard stories of other situations
and so on,but never had it really sunk in until now.
Some people are good and some people for lack of a better
word are evil.
I wish it didn't have to be that way.
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By Vilandra
|
09-13-2001,
12:56 AM |
One thing I wanted to bring out to everyone. I know in times
like these everyone is looking for some one to blame. Some
people, not knowing who else to do so blame God. I would like
to put a couple scriptures here.
I John 5:19 - We know we originate with God, but the whole
world is lying in the power of the wicked one.
Also,
Ecclesiastes 9:11 - I returned to see under the sun that
the swift do not have the race, nor the mighty ones the
battle, nor do the understanding ones also have the riches,
nor do even those having knowledge have the favor, because
time and unforseen occurrence befall them all.
I hope these scriptures help everyone in this time.
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By sars |
09-13-2001,
01:01 AM |
BuffyAngelFan04 is a member of our Asian Invasion Family, and
on behalf of everyone at AI, we express our deepest
condolences to Jessie and her family. We love you!
It's always darkest before the dawn.
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By Tariel |
09-13-2001,
01:04 AM |
Jessie> I am so, so sorry to hear that. Just know that
everyone here will support you and help you whenever you want.
My prayers are with you and your family. ::hugs::
And, Vil... in my opinion, God isn't the one to cause
this. He's the one to take care of those who lost their lives
and take them to heaven, and to support everyone. Thinking
that really helps.
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By MoonFire
|
09-13-2001,
01:19 AM |
This was originally posted by Kristiaka kdberg(former Roswell
2 mod) over on the Roswell 2 board. I think it is a wonderful
way of putting the donations to the Red Cross in perspective
and is used with her permission. (Thanks Kristi!)
******************************************
I’m still sitting here shell-shocked after this horrible
day and can’t shake the feeling that there must be something
we can do. I mean, look at what Roswell fans have accomplished
in the past – when we band together, it seems that we can do
so much. So, I’ve been trying to come up with some kind of
plan that we can all work on together and I had a thought.
Follow me, if you will.
Think about all the money we have spent, as Roswell fans,
over the past two years. Not only the money that we’ve given
to charity, which I believe totals around $125,000 and up –
but all the money we’ve spent on fun Roswell paraphernalia and
products that we just had to have – parties we’ve attended –
etc. If we sent even a small percentage of that money to the
Red Cross – think of the good they could do with it.
So, I’ve come up with a challenge for all Roswell fans who
wish to and are capable of participating in:
Think back to the beginning of your time as a Roswell fan.
Think about all the items you’ve bought as a fan. Think about
the parties you’ve attended and what you paid to attend those
parties. Think about the money you’ve spent on Tabasco for
campaigns and the money you sent in to various other campaigns
over the past two years. If you want to go so far as to add up
the cost of your internet service to visit Crashdown and Fan
Forum or your cable/satellite service that you pay for in
order to watch the show – go ahead and add that in.
Now – add all this up and take 5% of that total. Write a
check and call your local chapter of the American Red Cross
and find out where to send that check. (While you’ve got them
on the phone, find out where to go give blood at the same
time.)
I know a lot of people are looking at that 5% and thinking
it’s not much, but when you add it all up – trust me, you will
realize how much it really is. And with as many fans as we
have here – every little bit that you can send will help
tremendously. But if you don’t think 5% is enough – by all
means – send more!
_______________ Here’s an idea of what 5% will mean –
based on my own financial records and what I’ve spent (some of
these are estimates, as I can’t remember exact prices):
$35 1st Roswellian Gathering in LA $150 Donation for
Variety ad (Year 1 campaign) $40 Tabasco for Year 1
campaign $30 Season Finale party in LA $60 1st Annual
Crashdown Party $60 Valentine Dinner $600 Flights to New
York and Toronto for Season Premieres $60 New York Premiere
Party $65 2nd Annual Roswellian Gathering in LA $60
Rosquilters Dinner in LA $70 Tabasco for Year 2
campaign $50 Thank You UPN – PCF campaign $50 Amazon Fan
Forum donation $300 Flights to New York for Season
Finale $60 New York Finale Party $40 Yearbooks – Season
1 & 2 $250 Various Roswell paraphernalia – books,
posters, etc. $50 Estimate for postage spent on various
campaigns ======= $2030
5% of that total is $101.50 _______________
I've obviously travelled quite a bit, so my total is pretty
high - yours will probably be less, but still helpful. And if
it is too high for you to think of it this way - that's fine
too! If you can’t send 5% of your total - send 1%. If you
can’t send 1% - send $1! Send anything! This is just a
guideline - an idea - if you want to think of it “Roswell”
terms.
***************** Here’s the important information:
Red Cross 1-800-GIVE HOPE (blood donors) 1-800-HELP
NOW (monetary
donations) www.redcross.org http://www.helping.org/promos/cs_wtc.adp
Red Cross donation form
http://www.guidestar.org/partners/helping/index_ext.jsp?npoId=193856
National Organization for Victim Assistance donation form
http://www.guidestar.org/partners/helping/index_ext.jsp?npoId=357764
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By stogy |
09-13-2001,
03:02 AM |
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this but if you have
a Paypal account you can make a donation through their
website, www.paypal.com . No fees will be charged and all
money will go directly to the Red Cross. It is also free to
set up an account with Paypal.
Just thought I would pass this along.
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By Vilandra
|
09-13-2001,
04:05 AM |
They're saying that "Terrorists may have been thwarted by
passengers over Oklahoma City and New Orleans".
Does this mean what I think it does?
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By Dream |
09-13-2001,
04:10 AM |
My heart goes out to all who have lost loved ones and to all
the world who has been so deeply touched by this act of
ludicrousy. I love you all and my prayers are with you. Here's
a little poem I wrote just now:
Towers compacting like paper accordions Screams of
humanity wedged between them Disbelief surrounds the
stage Tears of grief, Tears of rage Performance of
terror bows for recognition In front of world audiences of
condemnation Blood stained paper flowers coat the
floor Flowers of Humanity stand no more Lying beneath
the stage of world confusion Dying beneath a sick
demonstration May the spirits of those now deceased Soar
above our earthly boundaries May God comfort all those who
grieve And touch the hearts of the misguided.
From an Australian Friend, I also grieve for your loss. It
is a loss to the world.
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By Sannyu |
09-13-2001,
04:31 AM |
So it became a sad certainty, that even amongst Roswellians
there are tragic losses.
@BuffyAngelFan04 and others. My deepest condolences from
here Hessia/Germany.
Our churches are filled with people praying, silently
weeping or bursting into tears. Germany mourns with you..
Finally after 2 days, I feel able to cry too. Too many
thoughts crossed my mind, I was paralysed through shock and
disbelieve.
Last night my husband and I followed an old tradition, we
light a candle in the window for the victims and their
families. A small gesture of hope and compassion in this dark
hour. I think also of the numberless firefighters,
policewomen/men and other helpers still risking their lifes to
rescue victims. Those are the heroes.
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By AngelaE
|
09-13-2001,
05:07 AM |
Hi there Just a kiwi gal here offering my heartfelt
sympathies to everyone in NY, Washington and America, my
prayers and thoughts go out to you all in this horrible time
of need.... There is so much more I wish I could say,
something inspirational but words just seem so small to
express what postive thought and love Im putting out into the
universe for you God bless Ang
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By Mogley |
09-13-2001,
05:37 AM |
BuffyAngelFan, I am sorry for the losses you and your family
has experienced.
Here's another way to help.
DeeinKS posted this information on the Brendan Fehr board,
and I'm bringing it back over here.
There are currently about 1200 American soldiers stationed
in the Gulf. They often receive minimal mail from the States,
and love receiving letters in their tough conditions. The "Any
Soldier" program began during the Gulf War and is still in
effect. The address is
Any Soldier Task Force Centurion Intrinsic Action
01-03 APO AE 09302
Also, type "Any Soldier" in to a search engine to find
other troops to write to. The above address is for just one
group of soldiers out of many on active duty around the world.
Roswellians are excellent at writing letters. Maybe you
could write just one to brighten a soldier's day?
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By Dreamgirl7
|
09-13-2001,
05:41 AM |
Dreamgirl7 from the Dreamer, Outsider, and Rebel threads
checking in here. I am ok, I almost lost my brother this
Tuesday but he's okay thank goodness. It was his birthday and
he was almost killed! I was crying when I talked to him. But
he's okay. I am okay though. How is everyone else?
My condolences go out to those families who suffered
enormous losses of loved ones. You are all in my thoughts and
continous prayers.
Thank God for another day!
Love you all.
Kyrie
And remember to thank God that you made it through this and
have the gift of seeing another sunrise.
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By Terra |
09-13-2001,
06:22 AM |
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By SQUEAKER
|
09-13-2001,
08:12 AM |
Hello my family and friends.
I haven't posted in a while but I just wanted to stop in
and say that I am OK. I live in Maryland but I work right up
the street from the Pentagon. We are about 5 to 10 minutes up
the road. If the plane had missed the Pentagon, It could have
came up to where I work and took us out. Anyone on this
website that has lost family or friends, I just want to extend
my deepest sympathy. This is a serious tragedy and I my heart
goes out to everyone. Everyone just be strong and keep each
other in your prays.
My Love to all Sheredia
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By
guerinschick |
09-13-2001,
08:13 AM |
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By SQUEAKER
|
09-13-2001,
08:18 AM |
BuffyAngel~ I am truly sorry for your lost. Anytime you need
to talk, are welcomed to PM me anytime and i am sure everyone
here will be here for you too.
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By Dizzy |
09-13-2001,
08:37 AM |
Dizzy from NC checking in to say I'm okay and none of my
relatives or friends were anywhere near the Pentagon or the
WTC.
~Diz~
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By
teticherifehr |
09-13-2001,
09:34 AM |
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By Rel
Kiltalpha |
09-13-2001,
10:24 AM |
BuffyAngelFan - I'm so sorry for your lost. I have a friend
whose's cousin-in-law was on one of the flights and another
classmate whose father was in one of the buildings. I was
lucky but it's truely horrible for everyone who wasn't. I send
my best to everyone in your family. I'm really sorry.
-Jen
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By DocPaul
|
09-13-2001,
10:39 AM |
I am just checking in from NYC, my time is short, so I just
want to say that I hope everyone is okay.
I posted a larger post on the candy thread. And hopefully I
will be going home in a few days or so, but this looks like a
long haul.
I am sorry for those who suffered loss, so incredibly
sorry, and we will try to find your love ones.
I also ask that you spread this though to all the shipper
groups across the boards.....I know we love the characters or
actors that we support on theses boards, but please do not
make banners and fanart depiciting your shipper groups sorrow
over this using these fictional characters. It is exploitive
of the dead, of the tragedy, even if it doesn't look or even
meant to be so. None of our favorite characters can give
blood, or carry the dead home. So perhaps this is not the time
or way to prove to the larger community how "chemistry" filled
your couple or character is.
These were REAL people who deserve to be mourned by REAL
people. A single candle burning says so much......in it's
singularity, and it's guiding path to bring our beloved dead
home.
I can say no more, because the horror of these events
are too great to behold. Just be good to each other, and teach
your children not to hate, and please give blood, especially
if you are types O negative or positive.
Doc
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By
Kzinti_Killer |
09-13-2001,
10:58 AM |
DocPaul Amen. Stay safe.
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By max-ified
|
09-13-2001,
11:25 AM |
AMERICA, YOU ARE NOT ALONE! WE STAND BY YOU AND WE FEEL YOUR
PAIN. I AM SO SORRY!!!!
The whole world is in shock and that's not just something
you read or you hear on tv, you can actually FEEL it. I can't
hardly think of anything else. It's there when I go to sleep
and it's right there again when I wake up. There are some
seconds every day where I feel like "Wait a minute, it was all
a dream!" but then I just need one look at the tv, turn on the
radio, look at the newspapers or see the people around me ...
and it hits me again. This is reality!
And know they found out that 3 (or more?) of those
terrorists actually lived in Hamburg (I live very
close)... I'm still in denial, my brain does not really
want to accept that fact :-(.
God, why did this have to happen? What if this was only the
tip of the iceberg? What if there are more attacks to come?
And what if there's war ahead of us?! I am so scared, that
I don't even feel afraid. Am I making sense? It's like I'm
numb inside or I'm dreamwalking. It's really like I said ...
my brain is sort of denying all these facts. I know that all
of this is really happening, but still it's like in a bad
dream.
Gee, I better stop here. I'm sorry this was so long, but I
really needed to get this out of my system.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!
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By Aafje |
09-13-2001,
11:26 AM |
Dear everyone,
I'm from Holland and since tuesday 4 oçlock local time, the
tv hasn't been off. I never felt so bad watching the news. How
could this happen? What is happening to the world??
I'm so deeply concered about everyone I don't even know. I
want to wish everyone in America and all over the world the
best luck. hang in there everyone!
God bless ou all.
Lots of love aafje
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By coolove
|
09-13-2001,
11:29 AM |
Just to let everyone know Lizparker285 aka Sara is at NYU and
she's okay incase she hasn't checked in herself.
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By
Firestar007 |
09-13-2001,
11:39 AM |
Just checking in I'm okay.
BuffyAngelFan- my thoughts and prayers are with you and
your family
I can't believe the things that have been happening in
these 3 days I still can't believe it because it just seems
like a horrible dream I can't even begin to imagine everything
that has happened all the lives that have been lost. My heart
goes out to the everyone out there I know that we will
overcome this.
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By Absolutely
Addicted |
09-13-2001,
11:44 AM |
This is going to be the first time I’ve posted in a quite some
time. I’ve been away from FanForum for a while, but having
perused some of the threads, I’m struck by how much I’d
forgotten how tight a community FanForum can be when the
occasion arises.
I’m not one of the unfortunate many who have met great
loss, as I live in Toronto, Ontario, and those who I know in
America are all, thankfully, safe. But, I cannot stop thinking
about the sheer cruelty and evil that people are capable of.
While I can almost deal with some adult Palestinians rejoicing
in the horror America has experienced, I can’t come to grips
with the images of children celebrating their victory. I know
the children probably don’t fully grasp the enormity of what’s
happened, but fact that they have been taught to hate at such
a young age ... it cripples me.
If that weren’t the worst, I then see images of destruction
– of what hate really can do to a nation, indeed a world.
I’m a girl who prides herself on not crying often, and yet
lately, the one constant in my life is a good sob. So many
thousands of people died in abject terror. Knowing, as well,
that these people weren’t just numbers or statistics on the
current death toll – that they were...are...loved and survived
by mothers and father, daughters and sons, families and
friends who are still trying to come to grips with others'
hatred, makes it even more tragic and so utterly needless.
At the same time, however, I’m overcome by, not only
America’s, but also the world’s unity, determination, strength
and sense of survival. It’s amazing to see how such tragedy
can yet produce such monumental courage, and unwavering,
steadfast resolve. My heart and best wishes go out to everyone
everywhere – especially those who have experienced too acutely
the acts of hatred. I hope that even those around the world,
even those who have not lost any loved ones, are able to find
compassion in their hearts and peace in their minds.
(Incidentally, I've never seen lines so long to donate
blood. It's overwhelming, really, what a world can accomplish
in the name of humanity. It makes it almost possible to
imagine a world without violence...)
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By
RoswellRules90 |
09-13-2001,
12:00 PM |
Hey All America (and other states), lets not forget that these
hijackers will be caught and brought to justice! I live in
Orange County but heard that my cousin was hit by a piece of
something shes in the hospital right now I already donated
some of my blood cause shes the same type as me,I gave money
too. Lets just keep on praying, pray for those who were in the
buildings and for the families that lost a loved one!
"...God Bless America are home sweet home..."
~Jennifer~
~ ~ This is war between Good (us) & Evil ~ ~ *
Please donate blood (type "0" we need lots) or money to help
kids whos daddys & mommys will not be coming back home,
and who now have no one to call mom or dad!! *
ROSWELL_MK: I think that article is saying the truth,
we have defended Israel,France, Germany, India & about all
the states that were in need and now look at us being hated by
people we never really had nothing to do with. But I hope this
opens eyes to the world that we helped you now its your turn
to help us! It may seem that we didn't do much but we did it
with our hearts so please HELP US!
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By linangel85
|
09-13-2001,
12:57 PM |
There's a kid at my school. He supposed lost someone...I heard
that it was his cousin and uncle, but he told some kids it was
his parents...so I don't know.
Anyway. Yesterday, today, and on Friday and Monday he's
collecting money to donate to Red Cross in 9th period. He's
collected over 500 dollars so far I think(probably more,
except some got stolen from him...morons). I gave the change I
had in my pockets and tomorrow I'm going to bring in a twenty
and some change to give him. I might ask my mom to make a
donation too.
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By
Cailin-Grace |
09-13-2001,
01:21 PM |
Cailin-Grace checking in from California.
My deepest sympathy to the victims, their family, friends,
and all who have been touched by this tragedy.
I would just like to say I never knew what it meant to be
an American until now....
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By linangel85
|
09-13-2001,
01:23 PM |
Oh yeah, and our whole school wore red, white, and blue today,
and we're doing it again tomorrow because it's going to be a
district-wide thing tomorrow.
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By MoonFire
|
09-13-2001,
01:26 PM |
Heres the whole of the Nostradamus quote that I have seen
parts of on here.
I agree its so eerie its not even funny.
Again - my thoughts are with you all.
~Andrea~
*******************************************
"In the year of the new century and nine months, From
the sky will come a great King of Terror... The sky will
burn at forty-five degrees. Fire approaches the great new
city... In the city of york there will be a great
collapse, 2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos while the
fortress falls the great leader will succumb The third
big war will begin when the big city is burning" -
NOSTRADAMUS 1654
He said this will be bigger than the previous
two. 2001 is the first year of the new century and this is
the 9th month. New York is located at the 41st degree
Latitude.
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By MoonFire
|
09-13-2001,
01:34 PM |
quote:Originally posted by batoracle on the Roswell 2 board.
<<A united stand by Americans: Friday Night at
7:00 p.m. step out your door, stop your car, or step out of
your establishment and light a candle. We will show the
world that Americans are strong and united together
against terrorism. Please pass this to everyone on your
e-mail list. We need to reach everyone across the United
States quickly. The message: WE STAND UNITED - WE WILL
NOT TOLERATE TERRORISM!
Thank you.
We need press to cover this - we need the world to
see.>>
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By plumeria
|
09-13-2001,
01:52 PM |
Moon, I just received something similar about lighting a
candle tonight, only it said 10:30pm EST. Hmmmm....
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By
PepperjackCandy |
09-13-2001,
01:52 PM |
quote:Originally posted by MoonFire: Heres the whole of the
Nostradamus quote that I have seen parts of on here.
I agree its so eerie its not even funny.
Again - my thoughts are with you all.
~Andrea~
*******************************************
"In the year of the new century and nine months, From
the sky will come a great King of Terror... The sky will
burn at forty-five degrees. Fire approaches the great new
city... In the city of york there will be a great
collapse, 2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos while the
fortress falls the great leader will succumb The third
big war will begin when the big city is burning" -
NOSTRADAMUS 1654
He said this will be bigger than the previous
two. 2001 is the first year of the new century and this is
the 9th month. New York is located at the 41st degree
Latitude.
Except that it isn't Nostradamus, really.
Bits and pieces are culled from several of his Quatrains,
mixed in with a healthy dose of a bogus Quatrain written in
like 1997.
Here's the result of my research:
quote:This appears to be a combination of
Century 10, Quatrain 72
In the year 1999 and seven months The Great King of
Terror will come from the sky, He will bring back to life
the great king of the Mongols. Before and after Mars [the
God of war] reigns happily.
Century 6, Quatrain 97
The sky will burn at forty-five degrees latitude ("degrees
latitude" is literally "steps"), Fire approaches the great
new city Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps
up When they want to have verification from the Normans
[French].
And a bogus Quatrain by a man named Neil
Marshal (http://www.ed.brocku.ca/~nmarshal/nostradamus.htm): In
the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two
brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures,
the great leader will succumb
I can't find any verification of a source for:
In the city of york there will be a great collapse,
or
Third big war will begin when the big city is
burning.
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By Misha |
09-13-2001,
02:00 PM |
I'm soooo sorry for everything that happened to you, guys. I
live in Guatemala, and fortunately I don't have
relatives/friends in NY, but it was soo shocking to see THAT
happening!
It was all over the radio, tv, newspapers, as I imagine it
was in the whole world.
I just hope you'll be able to rebuild those towers and tell
the world: "Here we are again, we are not that easy!"
Misha
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By MoonFire
|
09-13-2001,
02:24 PM |
Thanks for the info on the Nostradamus quote.
Not sure about the candle lighting thing.
Maybe that was 7 pst and 10 est?
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By mnlfan |
09-13-2001,
02:39 PM |
This is mnlfan checking in from Annapolis, MD
Things are chaotic and still shut down here...because of
the threats that our city hall has been receiving. and the
fact that we were on some sort of hit list that those monsters
created.
For everyone that has lost or has a missing loved one, or
who was directly affected by the events i am truly deeply
sorry. words cant express all the hurt and anger and sadnedd
we feel for your loss. please stand tall and keep your heads
and thoughts positive. we will prevail!
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By linangel85
|
09-13-2001,
03:09 PM |
My newest contribution to memory...
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By hibiscuss
|
09-13-2001,
03:34 PM |
Stopping in from Barbados again, to see how everyone is doing.
My friend Jeff at work told me today that he lost a close
friend of his along with his friend's girlfriend, both of whom
worked at the WTC, he didn't know how he'd get through work
today. He had the awful task of calling the girlfriend's
family to break the news.
I just want you all to know you're not alone, our hearts
hurt for you, for ourselves because we have lots of family and
friends who also worked at the WTC and my prayers are with you
God bless you all.
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By Cassadine
|
09-13-2001,
03:41 PM |
Hey all i'm checkin in from Kansas
I've been in daze since the 11th. My school is 2 blocks
from the capital building and it was very scary walking out at
the end of the day to see armed guards down the street because
the capital didn't close.
Everything is as good as it can be now. Me and and a bunch
of my friends were going to donate blood but i can't cuz i
haven't had my tatoo for a year yet. That made me feel kind of
bad. But i know there are other ways to help out.
Things like this happen They happen eveyday Just no
one ever thought it would happen in the great U.S. of
A. We thought we were invincible We thought we'd make
them pay But as it all unfolded we all started to
pray We prayed for the injured We prayed for the
victims But most of all the people who risked their
lives to saved them.
My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone
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By hibiscuss
|
09-13-2001,
03:44 PM |
Checking in again from Barbados, to say I just found out we've
lost 20 Caribbean nationals and they're expecting the numbers
to climb.
Of all times to cry...I'll stop by later.
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By jazmyne
|
09-13-2001,
03:47 PM |
Hey everybody, I just wanted to add my thoughts and prayers
to those who have posted here and to say a special thank you
to all of the international Roswellians who have lifted my
spirit with their compassionate concern. Secondly, I
wanted to say that I just got done donating blood for the
victims of the attacks, and I wanted to challenge all of you
out there to do the same!! It wasn't bad at all - it took only
10 minutes of my time and they fed me and I got a t-shirt out
of it - lol! But what I wanted to bring up is that I live in
Tennessee, not NY - I've seen a lot of people who thought they
couldn't donate because they're not in NY and that is simply
NOT TRUE - the tech who helped me there said that all the
blood stockpiles are going to a national storehouse and will
be distributed wherever it is needed. And think too that they
have depleted the nation's supply already, so even if your
pint doesn't make it to NY, you are still helping somebody and
that is the most important thing of all. So please, please
consider donating blood for this relief effort - and if you do
or have already, post here and let us all know!! We've saved
Roswell twice now - I hope we will now put the same
determination and fire into this fight as well - the fight for
life.
"But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that
this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us. We are
hard pressed on every side, but not crushed; perplexed, but
not in despair; persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down,
but not destroyed." 2 Corinthians 4:7-8
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By
UnsilentMajorty |
09-13-2001,
03:48 PM |
For those afraid of another "great" war...
The only war would be one with terrorist all over the U.S.
as opposed to nation vs. nation if that helps ease any of your
concerns (I know; it really isn't a comfort but I felt I had
to make the distinction).
Osama Bin Laden - if it was him - is not a nationalist.
Meaning, he employs terrorists all over the world like
corporatations use franchises. They are in Afghanistan,
Pakistan, Lebanon, etc... But they are not actually terrorists
fihting in the name Afghanistan, Lebanon, etc. They just train
and live there. Does this make sense?
The only way a great war would happen is if one of these
countries used a nuclear weapon - Like Pakistan - On another
country - A NATO country and the U.S. rushed in to help them
and perhaps Russia or China rushed in to back Pakistan (for
some arbitrary reason that I can't think of right now) - Or
something along those lines.
I don't want to make light of what happened, but hopefully
this will put some minds at ease because right now this is NOT
a nation vs. nation "war" - It is the U.S. vs. an organization
of Islamic extremists supposedly and will remain a "tight
engagement" unless something major happens like I described
above that will make it a global theater-wide
engagement.
| |
By arabella
|
09-13-2001,
03:49 PM |
I left my house Tuesday morning at 7:20 a.m. I was clipping
along at a, shall we say ‘good pace’, until I caught up to the
grid-lock that invariably develops at the intersection of our
three main highways. I sat in traffic mumbling to myself that
everyone who has to commute across town should be issued
tanks. There was an older man in the car in front of me and
the slow progress of traffic didn’t seem to bother him at all.
As the pace picked up around me, the car ahead of me just
puttered along – in the fast lane, I might add. I looked down
at the clock and saw that time was fast escaping me, but there
was no break in the line of cars zooming by me and Mr. Snail
to let me pass. Even though I knew he couldn’t hear me or
comprehend the anxiety he was causing me, I couldn’t help but
begin ‘talking’ to him, “Come on, move it or lose it,
sweetheart.” Though I did manage to muster up some
self-control by not honking my horn at him or tail-gaiting the
back of his Oldsmobile, I must admit it was a struggle. When I
did get a chance to get around him, I noticed how calm he was,
as if he was just out on a country drive.
I finally reached my exit and as my car descended the ramp
the radio station I was listening to announced that the World
Trade Center had just been hit by a plane. I was stunned. Sure
that it must be a hoax, I turned the channel, only to find
that it was horrifically true. I pulled into the drive at
work, got out of my car and walked inside wondering if anybody
else at the office knew yet. I wondered, too, if the families
of the men and women in the WTC even knew yet.
By 8:20 a.m. the television was on in the office. Already
we had witnessed with utter disbelief as a second plane
crashed into the second tower. As the situation progressed,
news traveled by word of mouth, not only here, but around the
country. Friends and relatives began calling, checking on each
other and making sure that travelers were on the ground
somewhere and safe. In a matter of hours, people from all over
the United States were immersed in a crisis that touched
individuals and drew them together in a common state of shock,
horror and fear.
It’s funny how many things come into perspective, and the
way one’s mind begins to retrace it’s steps from the morning
of such a disaster…where you were when you first heard about
the tragedy…your first thoughts when you saw the footage…and
of your loved ones. I found myself thinking about that elderly
gentleman in front of me on the highway. I’ll bet he sat down
for breakfast with his wife that morning, probably took the
time to visit with her and kiss her goodbye before he left
that morning, maybe he even knew what she was wearing when he
left. How else could someone be so calm and at ease with the
world? Perhaps he didn’t do any of those things, all I know is
that I didn’t. I never saw my husband leave, couldn’t have
told you what he was wearing or the last words he said to me
when he leaned down to kiss me before he left for work.
On Tuesday morning families all over New York got out of
bed and raced into the day…never thinking about taking the
time to hug their kids, return that phone call from their
mother the night before, or tell their spouse they love them
before hailing a cab or jumping aboard the subway. On Tuesday
morning, working American’s all over the U.S. wandered into
work and grabbed a cup of coffee, saying a half-hearted
“good-morning” to co-workers on their way to their computer
screens and ringing phones. It started out as just another
day. Only it wasn’t. No one in New York or Washington D.C.
will be able to get the smell of cinder and ash out of their
memories, nor will they ever be able to look at post cards of
the New York skyline or the Pentagon without their heart
aching. And for many days to come, I doubt any of them, or any
of the friends and family members of passengers of the
hijacked planes, will forget to hug their loved ones before
they leave their homes.
We don’t know when or where tragedy will strike, but it
will affect us all. Not because we live in the same country.
Not because we are all the same race or religion or group. We
will be affected because we are people who live in a very
small world. We know within seconds what is going on a next
door and thousands of miles from us. Somehow, those few
seconds make everything that happens feel like it’s in our own
backyard.
Before you leave tomorrow, make sure you hug your kids.
Tell your spouse you love them. Stop and speak to your
co-workers and actually hear their responses. Be patient with
the people you encounter on your way through the day. Do the
simple things you’ve been putting off. When you get home at
night, don’t fret about all the things that need to be fixed,
just be glad you have a place to call your own with walls and
doors and a safe place to lay your head. You never know what
will happen tomorrow, so make the most of each ‘today’ as it
comes.
~ M.Snively
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By
RoswellRules90 |
09-13-2001,
04:18 PM |
quote:Originally posted by Misha: I'm soooo sorry for
everything that happened to you, guys. I live in Guatemala,
and fortunately I don't have relatives/friends in NY, but it
was soo shocking to see THAT happening!
It was all over the radio, tv, newspapers, as I imagine it
was in the whole world.
I just hope you'll be able to rebuild those towers and tell
the world: "Here we are again, we are not that easy!"
Misha
My cousin was born in Guatemala but had recently moved to
NY. She was one of the victims who got hurt by a piece
something.
~Jennifer~
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By Reggie |
09-13-2001,
04:19 PM |
quote:Originally posted by AFlightyLittlePrincess: I never
thought that there were other people that were capable of
this. I mean I had heard stories of other situations and so
on, but never had it really sunk in until now.
Some people are good and some people for lack of a better
word are evil.
I wish it didn't have to be that way.
Amen. It's been that way for some time, though... On
prejudice:
It is now no more that tolerance is spoken of, as if it was
by the indulgence of one class of people, that another enjoyed
the exercise of their inherent natural rights; for happily,
the government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no
sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that
they who live under its protection should demean themselves as
good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual
support.
George Washington, first President of the USA to the
Hebrew Congregation of Newport, Rhode Island
It's tough reading; it was meant to be spoken. But it's
profound, and still true.
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By applejacks
|
09-13-2001,
04:23 PM |
AJ.. checking in..
Although NO physical attachments, alot of emotional ties..I
am origainally from New York.. However I am connected to
this in a strange and twisted way...I am from Florida and live
down the road from one of the Hijackers...I overwhelmed at the
fact that some one this evil lived soo close...
My heart goes out to those who have love friends and loved
ones over these Acts of Terrorism...
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By
Dreamer4ever11227 |
09-13-2001,
04:37 PM |
I'm here. I'm okay...in the broadest possible sense.
| |
By mistynsimi
|
09-13-2001,
04:58 PM |
quote:Originally posted by Cassadine: Hey all i'm checkin
in from Kansas
I've been in daze since the 11th. My school is 2 blocks
from the capital building and it was very scary walking out at
the end of the day to see armed guards down the street because
the capital didn't close.
Everything is as good as it can be now. Me and and a bunch
of my friends were going to donate blood but i can't cuz i
haven't had my tatoo for a year yet. That made me feel kind of
bad. But i know there are other ways to help out.
Things like this happen They happen eveyday Just no
one ever thought it would happen in the great U.S. of
A. We thought we were invincible We thought we'd make
them pay But as it all unfolded we all started to
pray We prayed for the injured We prayed for the
victims But most of all the people who risked their
lives to saved them.
My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone
this poem is beautiful. take care.
~misty
God bless the U.S.A.
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By sadhbh |
09-13-2001,
05:13 PM |
Checking in from Ireland here.
Everyone here is still shocked and shaken by what's
happened. My sister came home from a trip to Dc, finishing in
New York on Monday. She visited the WTC on Friday. If it
wasn't from her graduation she wasn't going to come home, got
an early flight. I'm so grateful. I can't think of what might
have happened, where she might have been.
My prayers and symapthy go out to everyone.
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By Littlest
Hobo |
09-13-2001,
05:25 PM |
Hey I'm checking in from BC, Canada. My condolences to the
victims and their families.
This is just so scary.. I actually consider myself pretty
de-sensified from most violent things.. but when I woke up to
this.. my whole body just got really cold and shivery and
there was a pit in my stomache..
watching crying children covered in soot amidst all the
havoc really got to me the most.. such innocent little faces
don't deserve this.. NOBODY DESERVES THIS.
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By moongazer
|
09-13-2001,
05:27 PM |
We're down here in Texas, but the tragedy touchs everyone, not
only in the U.S. but many countries. The towers housed many
international companies that have lost citizens of other
countries. Truly a sad day.
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By Parker22
|
09-13-2001,
05:37 PM |
I just wanted to say thanks again to everyone who has sent us
their well wishes, stories, and prayers. It is so nice to
have a group of people who you can talk to, and who can give
you emotional support in a time of need. I never realized
how much the Roswell FF meant to me, until I needed you
most. God Bless to all those who have been touched by the
tragic events this week, ~Parker22,NYC
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By BabyJax18
|
09-13-2001,
06:11 PM |
This was posted on the Roswell 'Cherishing Thread' by the
talented Fishish25. I just thought it was absolutely breath
taking, and wanted to share with you all as well.
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By angelsgirl
|
09-13-2001,
07:00 PM |
my thoughts and prayers are with everyone in this Great
Nation,
United we will Stand
| |
By jazmyne
|
09-13-2001,
07:06 PM |
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By Minnie |
09-13-2001,
07:31 PM |
Checking in again. I found out a high school classmate of mine
was in the WTC in NY when the second plane hit it but she
managed to get out to safety. I'm glad for her and her family
but I'm still devastated at the loss of life that this tragedy
has brought.
God bless and keep safe.
| |
By Cecilia
|
09-13-2001,
07:39 PM |
This is Cecilia from Los Angeles California checking in.
Things feel very strange out here. Every place I go just feels
so dead. Everyone has this somber look on their face and every
time I call someone they answer the phone as if they were
expecting to hear that a loved one was among those who didn't
survive. I'm young and thus have never seen the ugly face of
war, but in these three days I've gotten a taste of what it
feels like. We are not at war, but we are definitely injured.
I think perhaps the most disturbing part of this ordeal was
when I saw people in another country celebrating this tragedy.
It made me feel so sick. How can anyone see death as a cause
for celebration? Thankfully, not all of America's fellow
countries feel that way. In fact, almost none of them do.
While I'm not the biggest fan of our President George Bush, I
will proudly admit that I was moved to tears when I watched
Great Britain's Prime Minister give his speech on Tuesday. It
was a beautiful and eloquent speech given by an admirable man
who didn't bother to hide his emotion or sympathy. He said
many wonderful things but the one that really touched me was
when he said something along the lines of: "This was not a
terrorist attack on America, this was a terrorist attack on
the world." If anyone knows the exact quote please post it so
everyone else here in the U.S. can feel the joy that I did
when those precious words were spoken. Thank you Prime
Minister, you've given us hope. To all my fellow Americans:
My heart goes out to you. Stay strong. This will not break
us. To our fellow countries who stand by us in support:
Your love and concern does not go unnoticed. Thank you so much
for every tear shed, every hand held, and every kind word that
you've shared with us.
Love always, Cecilia
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By Nicole488
|
09-13-2001,
08:15 PM |
First I want to express my condolences to the victims and
their families. Living in Boston, this whole things has
really hit home for me. I know the entire nation is in shock
and very disturbed by this event, but this whole thing has
made it even harder to deal with because i know many people
who lost loved ones. My friends father worked on one of
the top floors of the 2nd trade center tower, and left minutes
before the plane crashed into his office. It is by the grace
of God that he is okay, but he unfortunately lost many close
friends. It is amazing how things can happen so
unexpectedly that can change lives forever.
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By Dream |
09-13-2001,
09:01 PM |
Checking in from Australia.
3 Australians have died in the WTC and 58 are still
missing. The reponse here in Australia has been utter
disbelief and sadness. I was walking through the shops
yesterday and it was so quiet. Peoples faces were motionless,
everybody seemed to have one thing on their mind. I just don't
know what to say, words fail.
The world will never be the same again! My sincerest best
wishes to all of you, my prayers, my heart is with you.
| |
By QMacDermod
|
09-13-2001,
09:01 PM |
Okay kids, wish me luck on this. I'm not sure if this is the
place to put this... but then again I'm not sure if this is
even gonna work, so there. > Hello. > > This
is Maeve's (Maealoeki or Maea) husband, Quinn, writing to you
to update everyone on Maeve's status. > > I'm not
sure (and neither is she) how many people know that she was
expecting to go to NY, so I'm just going down her address
book, hoping to hit everyone. The actual decision to send the
teams was sudden and she had no time to update you all on her
leaving. > > As of 6am today (yesterday; Wednesday
Sept. 12), she is safely in NYC. I spoke to her a few moments
ago. She has spent most of the day at the WTC area, and the
hospital, but has retired to her hotel room until they get
called out again. Two teams from the Air Care unit volunteered
to go out there, and they are being used as much as
possible. > > Maeve broke into sobs as she
described the scene she witnessed today. It killed my soul to
hear the things she saw. > > She did not mention
if she was around when any of the survivors were recovered,
but she said that she spent the day working next to a NY
fireman who lost several colleagues and friends in the
collapse. And they were evacuated in time when the second
collapse occurred today. > > I hope that all of
you will keep my wife in your prayers and thoughts. If you
desire to contact me, my email is QMacDermod@cs.com. I will
try my best to get back to you. > > Thank you for
your time and efforts. > > Quinn MacDermod
And my message out from today:
Let me start off by saying that I am no where near as
computer/internet savy as Maeve is... some of the things I see
her do amazes me (and it took me almost an hour to post to 5
internet lists and 16 private people last night). I'm now
going through her bookmarks to see if theres anyone I missed.
I spoke with Mae tonight and she is still safe. She ended
up leaving the WTC site earlier than she would have liked
today due to the fact her search partner (a NYC fireman) fell
and injured himself. Roscoe, one of the pilots for the
helicopters, insisted that she leave with Thom (the fireman)
due to the fact she was exhausted. That still didn't stop her.
After reaching the hospital, she continued to work there in
any capicity needed. That's my baby... always stepping in
where needed.
Again, my daughter, wife and I, thank you for all the kind,
encouraging emails that we have recieved from everyone. Maeve
spoke earlier of weakness and strength, and she contributed
the great amounts of strength she's been able to call upon as
the wonderful thoughts and prayers that she can feel, even in
the destructive area of Manhattan.
Thank you, and God bless America.
Quinn MacDermod QMacDermod@cs.com
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By Berengaria
|
09-13-2001,
09:39 PM |
Thank you,Mr.MacDermod.With friends like your wife and
yourself,we are blessed indeed. Kate
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By vc318 |
09-13-2001,
09:46 PM |
I'm here just very, very sad. How are you guys holding up? God
bless to everyone.
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By drwho |
09-13-2001,
10:24 PM |
I recently became an American Citizen and I truly consider
America the greatest nation in the world!
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By bettie79
|
09-13-2001,
10:25 PM |
I'm here checking in from CA. Haven't posted in a while, but
really felt the need to reach out tonight. I still can't quite
believe what has happened. I've never been to New York, don't
know anyone there, and could never understand the victims'
horror, but still, it is my tragedy as well. And it is not
just New York's or America's, it is everyone's.
As the days have gone by, I wonder if I will ever feel like
I did before. I wonder how all the little, petty thoughts I
had when I woke up on the morning of September 11, 2001 could
ever have been important. I know that I am thousands of miles
away, and am not feeling anything near what New Yorkers are
feeling, but I am speechless and numb, just the same. My
prayers and love go out to all the victims and their families.
I wish all the heroes of the fire departments, police
departments, and other rescuers all the luck that could ever
exist. We will all stay strong for you and never give up.
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By pinegap
|
09-13-2001,
10:31 PM |
I am still in shock of these horrific events that still don't
seem real. They keep playing it over and over on the T.V but
it makes it look like a movie. From everyone here in Australia
my heart goes out to you all. It is scary to think that such a
thing can happen and alot questions not answered. I only found
out Tuesday night 11p.m when there was a news flash and
thought it was just a fire. Still taken a while to come
understand this chaos. My thoughts with you all.
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By QMacDermod
|
09-13-2001,
10:42 PM |
drwho.
My wife and I are also new citizens of America. Our
daughter is a natural citizen, as she was born here. It was
our wish to have her be a true part of the land of the free
and the home of the brave, if that is not true now, it will
never be.
God Bless the Americans
Quinn
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By cantbehrit
|
09-13-2001,
10:55 PM |
I'm here & checking in....my computer went down Monday
night (my screen went) so I've been extremely frustrated.
I live about a mile from the Pentagon. I was lying on my
couch with my daughter on Tuesday morning when my sister came
flying in the door telling me to turn on the TV (it was about
9:15am). When the Pentagon was hit I didn't know what to
think, was this a war? I'm sure a lot of you did.
About 10 to 15 minutes after the Pentagon got hit my Dad
was in the area & was stopping by. There was a loud boom -
I was in my bedroom and my house slightly shook, my perfume
fell over on my dresser. Even my Dad heard it. I think they
were jets coming from Andrews Airforce Base.
It's good that people can come together & pray and
mourn together, as a nation. I'll never look at an American
Flag the same. I pray that there are thousands of miracles
beneath the rubble at the WTC site.
I've been to NYC twice this year and had a trip planned in
October. A friend of my sister's had a 10:30am meeting in
Building 2 - he missed his flight and was on the train when
they heard the news. A friend of his was also on one of the
planes. My cousin's co-worker was on the Dulles plane.
I drove by the Pentagon tonight after grocery shopping, the
store is right across the highway from the Pentagon.
Everything seemed to just go silent. It is just unbelievable,
all of this is.
My thoughts & prayers are with all of you,
Cantbehrit
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By pixiedust
|
09-14-2001,
12:34 AM |
I have been watching the news since Tuesday morning. Today I
went out and got a Flag. I am full of Emotion. I have never
really understood the meaning of God and Country until now. I
am so Proud to be an American.
I pray for New York and all those whose Lives have been
turned upside down. My heart hurts for those who won't see
their Loved ones again.
God Bless America , The Home That I Love
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By
supergirlhero |
09-14-2001,
05:15 AM |
Hope everyone is alright. God bless us all.
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By SQUEAKER
|
09-14-2001,
08:21 AM |
MAY ALL THE LOST SOULS FIND THEIR WAY HOME
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By
UnsilentMajorty |
09-14-2001,
08:32 AM |
One last thing on this day of reflection...
quote:
Cities Fall. But they are rebuilt. And heroes die. But they
are remembered. We honor them with every brick we lay. Ever
field we sow. With every child we comfort and teach to rejoice
in what we have been regiven. Our [freedom]. Our home. So let
us begin again.
This is from the preisdent's speech at the end of the 1998
film "Deep Impact" spoken by Morgan Freeman written by Bruce
Joel Ruben & Michael Tolkin.
I substituted planet for freedom...
Because it's true.
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By
UnsilentMajorty |
09-14-2001,
09:27 AM |
I don't know if these have been posted yet (as I didn't review
all 4 pages yet), but here are links for names of survivors
of the attack. http://wtc.ny.com/
http://okay.prodigy.net/
http://safe.millennium.berkeley.edu
Hope this helps and I hope if you are missing anyone they
appear on these lists because it means they are
ALIVE.
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By
ThePodSquad |
09-14-2001,
10:01 AM |
If this has already been posted forgive me I just want to make
sure everyone wants to know truth about this whole Nostradomus
thing.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/predict.htm
Claim: A 1654 Nostradamus prediction said World War III
would begin with the fall of "two brothers," a reference to
the destroyed World Trade Center towers.
Status: False.
Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2001]
"In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two
brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures,
the great leader will succumb, The third big war will
begin when the big city is burning"
Nostradamus 1654
Origins: The turmoil of recent events has us all
scrambling, some to look for solace and meaning, others for
the terrorists responsible, and yet others for signs that what
happened could have been prevented or at least foreseen. The
11 September 2001 attack on America destroyed not only the two
World Trade Center towers in New York City, a chunk of the
Pentagon in Washington, and caused untold loss of life, it
also shook America's sense of invulnerability. No longer do
Americans presume safety in an unsafe world.
For some, that realization is an eye-opener, unsettling but
necessary, in that a child's blissful unawareness has been
replaced (at great cost) with an adult's more clear-eyed view
of the world and its sometimes horrifying ways. For others, it
spells the beginning of the end, in that they equated an
illusion of safety with its reality and thus now feel their
world is ending. It is the fears of that second group that are
given voice in the Nostradamus prediction circulated on the
Internet even before the dust had settled in New York.
The French physician and astrologer Nostradamus (1503-1566)
penned numerous quatrains populated by obscure imagery that
the credulous have ever after attempted to fit to the events
of their times. These predictions can often ring somewhat true
in that the images employed are so general they can be found
in almost every event of import, but by the same token, the
prophecies are never a dead-on fit because the wordings are
far too general. Not that this stops anyone from believing in
them; our society's need for mysticism runs far too deep to
ever allow for that.
Those looking for the certainty of a Nostradamus prophecy
come true have been known to sledge hammer the results to
force a fit by inventing fanciful translations from the
original French, bend over backwards to assert one named term
is really another, and (as in this case) outright fabricate
part or all of the prediction.
Nostradamus did not write the quatrain now being attributed
to him. (One wonders how a guy who died in 1566 could have
written an item identified as being penned in 1654 anyway.) It
originated with a student at Brock University in Canada in the
1990s, appearing on a web page essay on Nostradamus. That
particular quatrain was offered by the page's author, Neil
Marshall, as a fabricated example to illustrate how easily an
important-sounding prophecy can be crafted through the use of
abstract imagery. He pointed out how the terms he used were so
deliberately vague they could be interpreted to fit any number
of cataclysmic events.
It appears someone mistook Marshall's illustrative example
for an actual Nostradamus prophecy and, not content to let
well enough alone, added "The third big war will begin when
the big city is burning." A fabrication was thus further
fabricated.
But that wasn't the end of it. More fakery was piled on in
later versions that now included all of the text quoted in the
Example section above but now concluded with:
On the 11th day of the 9 month, two metal birds will
crash into two tall statues in the new city, and the
world will end soon after.
Similarly, another enhanced version incorporates the
"Example" text quoted above into a more detailed prophecy:
And Nostradamus predicted this (who knows how long ago):
In the year of the new century and nine months, From the
sky will come a great King of Terror. The sky will burn at
forty-five degrees. Fire approaches the great new city
In the city of york there will be a great collapse, 2
twin brothers torn apart by chaos while the fortress falls;
the great leader will succumb; third big war will begin
when the big city is burning
This "prophecy" is bogus. The second quatrain is entirely
made-up, and the first quatrain is composed of lines taken
from two completely different prophecies of Nostradamus'
linked together for effect (Lines referencing "Normans" and
"Mongols" which have no plausible application to current
events have been excised by whoever concatenated these two
pieces.) The first two lines are from a verse which describes
events that would supposedly have taken place in July of 1999
(not September of 2001) and has long since been associated
with a wide variety of occurrences -- both real and fictional.
(An excellent dissertation on this "prediction" can be found
here.) The second two lines of the first quatrain are taken
from what is often cited as a Nostradamus writing identified
as Century 6, Quatrain 97:
Cinq et quarante degrez ciel bruslera Feu approcher
de la grand cité neuve Instant grand flamme esparse
sautera Quand on voudra des Normans faire preuue.
An approximate English translation would be:
Five and forty steps the sky will burn Fire
approaching the large new city Instantly a great thin
flame will leap When someone will want to test the
Normans.
Even if this is a real prophecy of Nostradamus', it simply
provides more evidence of how much shoehorning has to be
performed to get one of these vague "predictions" to fit
modern occurrences. It cites no date whatsoever. The line
about a sky that "will burn at forty-five steps" is
interpreted to refer to New York City, the "forty-five steps"
being the Big Apple's latitude -- never mind that New York
City is actually below the 41° latitude mark, and that several
major North American cities (e.g., Boston, Milwaukee, Chicago,
Minneapolis, Toronto, Montreal) are much closer to 45°
latitude than Gotham. As well, New York (one of North
America's oldest cities) is only "new" in the sense that its
name contains the word "new" (a criterion which describes many
other of the world's large cities, such as New Delhi), the
flames resulting from the terrorist attack in New York were
anything but "thin" (or "scattered"); and nobody has a clue
what "Normans" (what we would call "Vikings" or "French") have
to do with hijacked airliners crashing into American cities.
All in all, the Great Chicago Fire of 1871 is a much better
fit for this one. So is the explosion resulting from the
collision of the ships Mont Blanc and Imo in 1917, which
killed thousands of people and destroyed much of Halifax -- a
city just a few degrees shy of 45° latitude. To top it all
off, this very same verse was widely cited five years ago as
having "predicted" the mysterious crash of TWA Flight 800 in
July 1996.
I know it's long but it needed to be posted so everyone
would quit spreading it around.
By the way it came from the web address at the top of the
post.
Hannah
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By MoonFire
|
09-14-2001,
10:07 AM |
An old Irish saying that has been said many times in my family
over the last few days and that I feel sums up my thoughts
towards everyone affected by this.
Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anaim dhílis. May their souls
rest on God's right hand.
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By 'Isabel'
|
09-14-2001,
12:12 PM |
I want to give my sympathy to all American citizens,
especially the ones that are involved with this tragedy
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By Mogley |
09-14-2001,
12:18 PM |
I just found out that a good family friend was one of the
American employees who received the call from the stewardess
on American flight 11. They apparently believed the hijackers
wanted to ditch the plane into the ocean -- not into a
building. She stood by helpless, listening to the phone call,
as the hijackers moved the plane towards the WTC, possibly
hearing events all the way to the moment of impact.
My thoughts are with her and everyone at American.
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By HotSauce
|
09-14-2001,
01:42 PM |
I want to convey my deepest sympathy to AngelBuffyFan04 and
everyone else on this board who has lost loved ones in this
tragedy. I'm praying for you.
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By BYURoswell
|
09-14-2001,
01:52 PM |
To everyone who lost someone:
There are tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands or
more, of people who are praying for you. I know you will see
your loved ones again. It hurts because they're not here, but
they're watching over you from a better place, and they can't
wait to see you again. God is watching over you--He's hurting
with you--and He can help ease your grief.
Love,
Christie in Provo, UT
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By buddhagirl
|
09-14-2001,
03:26 PM |
To everyone who have lost someone I'm so deeply sorry. I'm
writing to you from berlin, germany to let you know your not
alone in your grief. I'm still in a state of denial and to
think maybe some of the terrorists had lived here in germany,
it's impossible, I just can't believe it. I've been to the
american ambassy here and let me tell you it's covered with
candles and flowers. It my not help you alot, but you'r not
alone. All german people are with you in this horrible
time.
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By
misssarah63 |
09-14-2001,
04:12 PM |
I just wanted to say to everyone that I'm really sorry, anyone
who's lost somebody they knew, especially buffyangelfan04. I
personally don't know anyone who was lost, but you have my
deepest sympathy.
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By White
Tiger |
09-14-2001,
04:41 PM |
I am stricken with grief for the souls of all who lost there
lives on Tuesday. I am even more saddened at all who lost
someone that dark and terrible day. I pray for each and
everyone.
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By plumeria
|
09-14-2001,
05:31 PM |
I'm not normally a vigil sort of person, but the 7pm candle
campaign struck something inside me, and I figured it would be
a small gesture I could do.
So at 7pm I lit the candle we used at our wedding, and took
it outside. I was the only one there. But our house is on a
corner, and there's a shopping center entrance across the
street. So without any further thought, I walked to the corner
- I didn't even stop to put on shoes - and stood there with my
candle.
I attracted more people on my side of the road, of course,
but I was stunned by how many people honked or waved as they
went by. One man even rolled down his window to yell "God
bless you" as he went by. And of those who didn't give any
overt acknowledgment, I'd say about half of them at least
turned to look - which I hope means I was able to touch them,
even though they did not respond.
It was one of the most incredible experiences I've ever
had, and it made me more conscious than ever of our hard-won
sense of unity. I had meant to stay out only a minute -- I
ended up staying for 15. I might have stayed longer, except
that we're having friends over shortly, and I still needed to
do some things around the house.
Other people who lit candles -- what were your experiences?
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By
Roswell_Lvr15 |
09-14-2001,
05:58 PM |
Lighting my candle for AMERICA
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By
healersbabe |
09-14-2001,
06:02 PM |
quote:Originally posted by plumeria: It was one of the most
incredible experiences I've ever had, and it made me more
conscious than ever of our hard-won sense of unity.
Other people who lit candles -- what were your
experiences?
Hi ! Well I just barely lit ours because I couldn't find
matches anywhere but made it in time. I have to say I just
really felt goosebumps while listening to the people sing
'Amazing Grace' on tv and I also felt sort of guilty that I
had been soo blessed as to not have lost anyone that I loved .
I can just imagine how torn they must feel yet soo many
together almost finding comfort in each other's shared pain. I
am just hoping we won't have to loose that many more to fight
with this "evil".
I also smile a lot at how this has in a way united all of
us like nothing before--who would have thought the Russians,
Germans, English and French would ever fight together
alongside the United States. You can't help but be moved.
I still have my candles lit and I just pray all of our
prayers help to atleast ease the pain of those who lost
someone .
you all!!
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By
Roswell_Lvr15 |
09-14-2001,
06:30 PM |
I just got back from doing it and well I began to sing, the
national anthem and people came out of there houses and
saluted the flag and some sang with it was really touching and
a great experiance for me and my family.
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By maxfan |
09-14-2001,
06:55 PM |
My thoughts and prayers are with everyone who has suffered the
loss of a loved one and also with the leaders of our country
so they may make to the right decisions for the fate of our
country
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By
TeflonCandygirl |
09-14-2001,
07:57 PM |
Hey guys. I'm doing a lot better. I've been back in school for
like 2 days and today my friend Katie organized a charity
thing basically from her house for my school for everyone to
bring things over for the people in NYC. I spent $107 on
socks, underwear, lip balm, eye solution, peroxide, gum,
bandages, and that kind of stuff for all of the workers over
there that are helping out. It was definitely worth it though.
I spent most of my day at Katie's house arranging the stuff
and seperating everything. She and her dad are on their way to
the city now to bring the stuff there. He's a cop there. I was
gonna go but seeing the city is really depressing and I don't
want to go for a while until I'm like totally ok with it. A
lot of people in my school contributed to the charity thing
too so it makes you like feel good ya know? Like you helped
something. My mom also put an American flag on our front lawn
with 4 lit candles in front of it. It's a really pretty
vigule.
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By Minnie |
09-14-2001,
08:22 PM |
quote:plu said: Other people who lit candles -- what were
your experiences?
I went outside my house at 7 PM to do my candlelight vigil.
I looked around and no one was there except two of my
neighbors who were going for their nightly walk.
I turned on my car stereo, played 'America the Beautiful'
and lit my candle. I felt rather strange to be the only one
doing it in my neighborhood but then I remembered all the
people who lost their lives and that gave me focus. I wanted
to say a prayer but found myself humming along to the lyrics
of the song instead. The words expressed what was in my heart.
After the song I ended, I felt very somber.
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By hibiscuss
|
09-14-2001,
08:27 PM |
Here again from Barbados...I lit my candle at seven, I didn't
go outside, I forgot that part instead from 7:00 - 7:30 I
prayed and cried and it felt...feels good. Nobody disturbed me
and I was focused. My candle is still lighting and it's after
10:00pm. A friend of mine stopped by and asked me what the
candle was for and I told him, maybe he'll go home and light a
candle too.
We also had a service at noon at our church but I couldn't
make it, my mother went though.
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By
~*LiTtLe^^pReTtY*~ |
09-14-2001,
08:42 PM |
i'm from Canada and i feel very sad because i wuz the only
person on our whole block who lit a candle. i went out @ 7
o'clock, said a little prayer, and my family and i put candles
in our front & bedroom windows - i felt it wuz the least i
could do. i'm suprised no one else did so in my area but
everyone has their own way of expressing things and i'm not
mad at them for not putting out candles.
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By
shapeshifter |
09-14-2001,
09:04 PM |
~*LiTtLe^^pReTtY*~ I'm sure that many saw your candle, and,
for them, looking at the flame was their way to join the time
of mourning. I am living across the street from college
dorms, so I hope some students will see my candle light and
pause for a moment. It is very quiet here this Friday
night--very unusual.
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By Nynaeve
|
09-14-2001,
09:41 PM |
September 11, 0900 I had arrived to work dreading another long
arduous day. Saw a coworker and began to chat about the
morning. My coworker began to tell me how his day was
summarily ruined by news of the World Trade Center being hit
by a commercial plane. I thought he was joking and surely he
wouldn't make such a grisly tale first thing in the morning.
He looked at me with a grim look and said it was real. My week
turned into a strange numbing trance from then on.
My coworkers were all gathered listening to the radio and
trying to see updates of this horrendous event on the
internet. All day we went through the routine of work...but I
couldn't focus. I kept listening to the updates on the radio
and following the story on the internet. Tears flowed down my
face all day. I couldn't explain my despair. I couldn't feel a
thing except shock. I walked around the site as a zombie.
I was nervous thinking of all that still had not unfolded.
I began to worry over my family...my husband. I didn't
remember what I said to him or what he wore that morning. That
night when we finally got home after numerous routine events
were cancelled...we watched the footage. For the first time, I
watched the events that transpired both at the WTC and the
Pentagon. My sobs and gasps for air were just the start of
what I witnessed. I was abjectly horrified at how evil mankind
can be towards other INNOCENT humans. I have not been able to
focus, to think, or to move in this world for 4 days without
tears...without despair...without righteous anger.
A very dear friend of mine...a woman who left Lebanon over
20 years ago to escape such atrocities has been shellshocked
and crying and unable to rest. I love this friend and only
hope that she will find peace and hope and comfort in this
country she loves so dear.
These atrocities only serve to fuel my belief that in spite
of our weaknesses, we are human and have the freedom of
choice. The choice to be good or to be evil. God will cradle
those souls lost in his arms and give them peace...judgment
will come to those who do harm and God's judgment will be
just. My prayers go out to those who have lost loved ones in
this tragedy. My house is lit full of candles and my heart
wails in sympathy.
Your tears are not shed alone, may God rest their souls and
carry the lost ones home.
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By
Lorrilei1960 |
09-14-2001,
09:50 PM |
Hi... checking in from Arizona.
Like all of you, I'm mourning the death of those who died
in Tuesday's tragedy. I wanted to add my condolences to those
who lost friends, neighbors, and loved ones.
I wanted to share something that happened to me today.
I teach 8th grade, and today after school I was walking to
my car, when a group of girls passed by on the sidewalk. They
were all wearing red, white, and blue and singing at the top
of their lungs. It was a song I hadn't heard in a while... but
when I heard the words, tears came to my eyes.
"And I'm proud to be an American Where at least I know
I'm free, And I won't forget the men who died Who gave
that right to me. And I'd gladly stand up next to
you And defend her still today. 'Cause there' no doubt I
love this land God bless the USA."
As someone else quoted from the Bible, we are cast down,
but not distroyed. God bless you all.
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By Liswanabe
|
09-14-2001,
10:04 PM |
Checking in and OK. Still numb and in shock by what happpened.
It's frightening to know they hit so close to home, but we are
strong and we will get all of them and any country that is
helping terrorists. This may take some time but as a nation we
can handle it. GO AMERICA
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By Berengaria
|
09-14-2001,
10:45 PM |
Let every nation know,whether it wishes us well or ill,that we
shall pay any price,bear any burden,meet any hardship,support
any friend,oppose any foe,in order to assure the survival and
the success of liberty.
John Fitzgerald Kennedy
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By Love Kills
|
09-14-2001,
10:52 PM |
I went outside to light candles with my grandpa. We were the
only two people on our block doing it, but it still felt nice.
We stayed out there for about 20 minutes, and then he hung
some little American flags on our front steps with scotch
tape. It looks really crappy but it's the thought that counts.
Today in school, some people read poems over the
loudspeaker and we had a moment of silence. I think I'll go
find one of the poems and bring it back here...
edited to add: "A Psalm of Life" by Henry Wadsworth
Longfellow
Tell me not, in mournful numbers Life is but an empty
dream For the soul is dead that slumbers And things are
not what they seem
Life is real, life is earnest And the grave is not its
goal Dust thou art, to dust returnest Was not spoken of
the soul
Not enjoyment, and not sorrow Is our destined end or
way But to act, that each tomorrow Find us farther than
today
Art is long and time is fleeting And our hearts, though
stout and brave Still, like muffled drums, are
beating Funeral marches to the grave
In the world's broad field of battle In the bivouac of
life Be not like dumb, driven cattle Be a hero in the
strife
Trust no future, howe'er pleasant Let the dead past bury
its dead Act, act in the living present Heart within,
and God o'erhead
Lives of great men all remind us We can make our lives
sublime And, departing, leave behind us Footprints on
the sands of time
Footprints, that perhaps another Sailing o'er life's
solemn main A forlorn and shipwrecked brother Seeing,
shall take heart again
Let us, then, be up and doing With a heart for any
fate Still achieving, still pursuing Learn to labor and
to wait
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By Roswella
|
09-15-2001,
09:34 AM |
I just wanted to let everyone know what was going on here in
Illinois...I go to the University of Illinois and everyone is
doing a great job of showing their support. There's barely
ever a time you see someone walking without a yellow ribbon.
Prayers are being said, vigils are being held. I wanted you to
hear about the one I went to yesterday...
Yesterday I attended a vigil in our quad. Thousands of
people, children, students, and adults alike filled up more
than half of the surrounding area. This event was not one of
mourning, of grief, or of sadness. It was a place for all of
us to come together and prove that we can move on. When we
observed our moment of silence, people did not bow their heads
and cry. They raised them higher and stood proud, proving that
the American people can overcome whatever comes our way. They
asked that we all stand up and hug the person next to us. I
went to this event by myself, but as I stood among strangers,
I did not feel alone. The only time I cried was when the
person next to me pulled me over and embraced me. And as I
looked around, everyone joined in. Strangers, friends...no one
was left standing that wasn't touched by another human being.
I have never felt more proud. It's a shame that a great
tragedy like this is what it takes for America to feel, if not
act, united. But I'm damn proud that it has brought us
together the way it has. Our hearts will be with the family of
the victims, but our minds, our will, our determination will
be aimed at proving that we still stand strong. That we will
overcome, that we will live.
Roswella
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By lono |
09-15-2001,
10:14 AM |
I have not yet posted over here. Because of the weather I was
undable to attend a Candle Light Vigil, but my family and I
lit all the candles in our house and placed them in our
windows.
President Bush spoke yesterday at the National Cathedral.
These are his words:
We are here in the middle hour of our grief. So many have
suffered so great a loss, and today we express our nation's
sorrow. We come before God to pray for the missing and the
dead, and for those who loved them.
On Tuesday, our country was attacked with deliberate and
massive cruelty. We have seen the images of fire and ashes and
bent steel.
Now come the names, the list of casualties we are only
beginning to read. They are the names of men and women who
began their day at a desk or in an airport, busy with life.
They are the names of people who faced death and in their last
moments called home to say, be brave and I love you.
They are the names of passengers who defied their murderers
and prevented the murder of others on the ground. They are the
names of men and women who wore the uniform of the United
States and died at their posts.
They are the names of rescuers — the ones whom death found
running up the stairs and into the fires to help others. We
will read all these names. We will linger over them and learn
their stories, and many Americans will weep.
To the children and parents and spouses and families and
friends of the lost, we offer the deepest sympathy of the
nation. And I assure you, you are not alone.
Just three days removed from these events, Americans do not
yet have the distance of history, but our responsibility to
history is already clear: to answer these attacks and rid the
world of evil. War has been waged against us by stealth and
deceit and murder.
This nation is peaceful, but fierce when stirred to anger.
This conflict was begun on the timing and terms of others; it
will end in a way and at an hour of our choosing.
Our purpose as a nation is firm, yet our wounds as a people
are recent and unhealed and lead us to pray. In many of our
prayers this week, there's a searching and an honesty. At St.
Patrick's Cathedral in New York, on Tuesday, a woman said, "I
pray to God to give us a sign that he's still here." Others
have prayed for the same, searching hospital to hospital,
carrying pictures of those still missing.
God's signs are not always the ones we look for. We learn
in tragedy that his purposes are not always our own, yet the
prayers of private suffering, whether in our homes or in this
great cathedral are known and heard and understood.
There are prayers that help us last through the day or
endure the night. There are prayers of friends and strangers
that give us strength for the journey, and there are prayers
that yield our will to a will greater than our own.
This world he created is of moral design. Grief and tragedy
and hatred are only for a time. Goodness, remembrance and love
have no end, and the Lord of life holds all who die and all
who mourn.
It is said that adversity introduces us to ourselves. This
is true of a nation as well. In this trial, we have been
reminded and the world has seen that our fellow Americans are
generous and kind, resourceful and brave.
We see our national character in rescuers working past
exhaustion, in long lines of blood donors, in thousands of
citizens who have asked to work and serve in any way possible.
And we have seen our national character in eloquent acts of
sacrifice. Inside the World Trade Center, one man who could
have saved himself stayed until the end and at the side of his
quadriplegic friend. A beloved priest died giving the last
rites to a firefighter. Two office workers, finding a disabled
stranger, carried her down 68 floors to safety.
A group of men drove through the night from Dallas to
Washington to bring skin grafts for burned victims. In these
acts and many others, Americans showed a deep commitment to
one another and an abiding love for our country.
Today, we feel what Franklin Roosevelt called "the warm
courage of national unity." This is a unity of every faith and
every background. This has joined together political parties
and both houses of Congress. It is evident in services of
prayer and candlelight vigils and American flags, which are
displayed in pride and waved in defiance. Our unity is a
kinship of grief and a steadfast resolve to prevail against
our enemies. And this unity against terror is now extending
across the world.
America is a nation full of good fortune, with so much to
be grateful for, but we are not spared from suffering. In
every generation, the world has produced enemies of human
freedom. They have attacked America because we are freedom's
home and defender, and the commitment of our fathers is now
the calling of our time.
On this national day of prayer and remembrance, we ask
almighty God to watch over our nation and grant us patience
and resolve in all that is to come. We pray that He will
comfort and console those who now walk in sorrow. We thank Him
for each life we now must mourn, and the promise of a life to
come.
As we've been assured, neither death nor life nor angels
nor principalities, nor powers nor things present nor things
to come nor height nor depth can separate us from God's love.
May he bless the souls of the departed. May he comfort our
own. And may he always guide our country.
God bless America.
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By sars |
09-15-2001,
11:55 AM |
This is from an email forward I received, and it scared me I
don't know who originally wrote it though..
>>Look at this: >> >>The date of
the attack: 9/11 - 9 + 1 + 1 = 11 >>September 11th is
the 254th day of the year: 2 + 5 + 4 = 11 >>After
September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of
the year. >>119 is the area code to Iraq/Iran. 1 +
1 + 9 = 11 >>Twin Towers - standing side by side,
looks like the number 11 >>The first plane to hit the
towers was Flight 11 >> >>I Have
More....... >> >>State of New York - The 11
State added to the Union >>New York City - 11
Letters >>Afghanistan - 11 Letters >>The
Pentagon - 11 Letters >>Ramzi Yousef - 11 Letters
(convicted or orchestrating the attack
on the >>WTC in 1993) >>Flight 11 - 92 on
board - 9 + 2 = 11 >>Flight 77 - 65 on board - 6 + 5
= 11
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By stogy |
09-15-2001,
12:38 PM |
I thought this was a great article I found on msn.com.
10 Things You Can Do To Help
THE TERRORISTS WANT us to be afraid; they want us to stay
home, hoarding fuel and food. They want to crush our free
and open society by paralyzing us with fear. We can stop
them, and so can every other American. Our collective
actions have a tremendous effect and will repel this
terrorist threat and send a clear message to the world.
1. Keep your money in the stock market; leave your
investments where they are.
Show your faith in our
economy by making a new investment when the market opens.
Don’t think for a moment that the terrorists didn’t have a
keen sense of the timing of their actions. As consumers and
agents of our economy, we hold its future in our
hands.
2. Fill your car’s gas tank as you normally
would.
Don’t run to the gas station to fill up your
car. Stay with your normal pattern of fueling. If you’re a gas
station owner, don’t give in to price-gouging. If you find
yourself and your community victims of price-gouging (at gas
stations or grocery stores), bring it to the public’s
attention. Report gas-gouging to the local chapter of the
American Automobile Association (AAA). You can also contact
your state’s Attorney General or the U.S. Energy Department
Hotline at 1-800-244-3301. These organizations are aware of
this kind of activity. Bring it to the attention of your local
newspaper or broadcast outlet. Provide accurate information
and shine a bright light on this lack of civic virtue.
3. Buy things — anything, no matter how small.
Consider buying a new car, something fuel-efficient to
reduce our dependence on foreign oil. If you’ve had a project
or purchase on your mind, now is the time to follow through.
Don’t put off purchases that you have planned because of
this incident and fear for the economy. These delayed
purchases can be self-fulfilling prophecies of a failing
economy. Our collective purchases will have a phenomenal
impact and help us fight fear-induced volatility of the price
of everyday goods and services.
4. Fly the American
flag.
Fly it from your house. Fly it from your car. Fly it in a
position of respect anywhere you can. Stand tall and be
American. Our country has been politically divided,
especially since the last election. But let us not forget that
it is precisely the mechanism of democracy that allows us to
be politically divided in a productive fashion. Terrorism
attempts to take that productive division and turn it on
itself.
5. Withdraw cash from the bank as you usually would.
Don’t help cause a run on the banks by withdrawing all your
money. Our financial systems are strong and resilient.
Withdraw cash as you normally do. Terrorists fully intend to
scare us into thinking that our systems are vulnerable well
beyond the point of impact.
6. Use transportation systems.
Make business and travel arrangements as you normally
would. Book a flight as quickly as you are able in order to
show your confidence in our airlines, the new airport security
guidelines, and our public safety system.
7. Conserve energy.
This will help to stabilize prices and supplies. Take
public transportation, walk, bike, carpool, do whatever you
can to avoid driving. Taking public transportation to work
once a week will be a tremendous help. Turn off unused lights
and appliances at home.
8. Write your state and local representatives and members
of Congress to demand more funding for alternative fuel
research.
Our dependence on foreign oil is a huge vulnerability. If
the United States decides to take military action, our oil
supplies may be affected. By reducing our dependence on
foreign oil, we enable our government to do what is deemed
necessary.
9. Help unify this country by engaging your neighbors and
community.
We need to have one voice to fight terrorism. Everyone must
come together in order for our collective actions to defeat
this evil. Acts of violence against our own people, regardless
of their faith or background, can only be destructive.
10. Get back into your normal pattern of work and living.
Do what you can to continue your normal routines.
Embrace the new security guidelines in airports and
other public places and don’t complain. Support airport
security personnel and let them know you’re proud of what they
are doing. Don’t be frozen by shock and fear: that was the
terrorists’ objective. Fight them by continuing to live
normally in our free and open society.
IT’S UP TO
YOU There are many great lessons to be learned from these
events: among them is the understanding that we each have
the ability to defend our nation. We are each empowered to
make decisions that will collectively allow us not only to
survive this time of crisis, but to emerge ever-stronger in
our response to this unspeakable act of evil. Invoking
Winston Churchill, this could, indeed, be our finest hour.
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By behrian66
|
09-15-2001,
12:59 PM |
im ok my brother wouldn't let me go on the computer. I just
wanted to say sorry for all the people's families who lost
theier lives it was a big tragity!!
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By Alyia |
09-15-2001,
01:01 PM |
Sars OMG. That is totally eerie and scary.
I just can not believe that this tragedy has come upon the
United States. I send my deepest sympathy to all the families
of the victims and workers who are helping to recover people.
I know that the US is going to go to war, and I am so scared
for the people that will fight and the US in general. I'm just
afraid of what Pakistan and Afghanistan will do in retaliation
of the war. But i definitely do think that the US should do
something to show Bin Laden and his followers that they will
not get away with taking thousands of innocent US lives. You
can not reason with terrorists, you just have to attack them.
~*Tanesha*~
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By Lightstar
Angel |
09-15-2001,
01:23 PM |
Hey from NYC.
Me, my sister, my father & my mother went out on our
balcony on our block and lit our candles. I felt a lot better
when a lot of people started coming out and lighting candles.
Then people down the block (that I couldn't see but only hear)
started singing "God Bless America" and all the patriotic
songs and we clapped after they finished and we all started
singing the National Anthem and chanting USA! USA! So it was
very nice.
I stayed outside for about 1 hour and then I went in cuz it
got really cold.
God Bless America!
Another thing I would like to put up is this attachment I
got in an email.
We Are Not Alone
Members of the public gather in London's Parliament Square,
waiting for Big Ben to strike 11 a.m., Friday, to begin 3
minutes of silence for those who died in Tuesday's terrorist
attacks. (by Peter J. Jordan, AP)
Palestinian children light candles in at a memorial service
in the West Bank city of Hebron. Hundreds of Palestinians
rallied to show support for Americans killed in the attacks on
the World Trade Center. (AP)
Kenyans pray during a religious service in Nairobi to show
their solidarity with the American people in the wake of the
terrorist attacks of New York and Washington. (by Pedro
Ugarte, AFP)
A couple observe a minute of silence in front of Notre-Dame
cathedral in Paris to mark the memory of the thousands of
American victims. (by Jack Guez, AFP)
With U.S flags waving, Germans attend a solidarity
demonstration at the Brandenburg Gate to pay tribute to
America's dead. German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder was in
attendance. (by Wolfgang Rattay, Reuters)
At a motorway rest area near Kerkdriel, the Netherlands,
motorists leave their cars to observe three minutes of silence
in memory of the victims. (by Marcel Antonisse, AFP)
Men pray during Friday services at Rashediya Grand Mosque
in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. The prayer leader said, "We as
Muslims respect all humans and all innocent people." (by
Kamran Jebreili, AP)
Pope John Paul II prays for victims of the attacks in the
United States at the pontiff's summer residence at
Castelgandolfo. The Pope called the attacks a dark day in the
history of humanity. (bu Arturo Mari, Reuters)
A Russian woman mourning the victims of the terrorist
attacks lights candles during a special service at St.
Nicholas Cathedral in Moscow. Similar services were held in
many Russian Orthodox churches. (by Maxim Marmur, AP)
Pakistani Muslims pray in Islamabad for victims of
terrorist attacks as President Pervez Musharraf considers how
to respond to a U.S. request for help in hunting down Osama
bin Laden. (by Saeed Khan, AFP)
Filipino protestors gesture against terrorism at a peace
rally outside the U.S Embassy in Manila. The protestors
expressed condolences to the American people. (by Bullit
Marquez, AP)
A girl places a candle beside a small U.S. flag in her
apartment window in Brno. People in the Czech Republic placed
lit candles in their windows to remember victims of the
terrorist attacks. (By Otto Ballon Mierny, CTK)
A Belgian pupil holds a handmade U.S. flag during the three
minutes of silence in a Brussels school. (Reuters)
For more images of support from people around the world,
visit: http://is.a.crackfiend.com/thankyou/
My thoughts & prayers are with everyone.
~*Shar*~
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By Minnie |
09-15-2001,
02:59 PM |
I'm so touched by the outpouring of support I've seen from
all over the world.
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By Alyia |
09-15-2001,
03:11 PM |
Lightstar Angel Thanks for the pics and everything. That's
really great to see.
~*Tanesha*~ ONELOVE
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By Sannyu |
09-15-2001,
05:18 PM |
I don't have a picture I could show You from the service I
attend on friday evening at the little church in my village
here in Germany. Yet I like to tell You about the
tea-candles we light, and the pieces of paper where children,
women and men wrote and drew the prayers on. Some
cried. The hymns we sang were about peace and hope, but
also abou the shock we all felt. We can bring this all in
front of our lord, he'll listen, always.
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By tiernan
|
09-15-2001,
08:59 PM |
I can't believe the horrible events that have cursed our
nation this week. It's been so stressful and I'm praying for
all those invloved at the Trade Center, the Pentagon, and
Philadelphia... also for all those who have lost a loved one
or don't know about their fate. **Keep on Hoping**
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By
maxsparkles |
09-15-2001,
10:16 PM |
I just got this in an email and thought I'd pass it along. I
don't know if someone's already posted it, but I'm gonna do my
part. God bless America.. Keep praying!
Hello, my name is Mike Giles and I am a resident of
Atlanta, GA. Like many of you, I have donated to the Red Cross
online via Amazon. I have given blood. I still feel helpless
in what has happened and what I can do to help. I hope that
this act will be symbol of how we as a nation can stand
together and bring light to the darkness.
This is a time of darkness. Darkness from terrorism,
darkness from fear, and darkness from anger. In the wake of
the unspeakable act, that was commited on the US on September
11th, a light has shown brightly throughout the nation in the
hearts of it's people. The United States has been blessed
with a collection of people who have proven that, in the
face of disaster, pety problems can be put aside.
Our nation has come together to donate money, blood, and
sweat without hesitation. My plea goes out to others that
wish to continue to push the darkness back.
Many people have come to our country seeking the light. The
light of hope, the light of dreams, and the light of freedom.
Let us now come together and create a light across America
showing that we can not and will not allow the darkness to
surround us.
Let us stretch out an extension of the light that the
Statue of Liberty has provided as a beacon of freedom for
those shrouded in the darkness.
One week from the tragedy, on Sept 18th, at 11:00pm EST,
point your floodlights, flashlights, and candles into the sky
above and show that this darkness will not stop the light of
freedom from shining in our home.
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By
shapeshifter |
09-15-2001,
11:16 PM |
I just watched a couple of hours of CNN (while doing other
chores and tasks), and it seems that it will be a long time
before the lost can be "Checked In." Mods, I propose that
this thread stay up until all missing are accounted for. Is
that possible? It would be a Roswell FanForum Candlelight
vigil of sorts. If in that time there are no other crises,
I would consider it a miracle.
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By MoonFire
|
09-16-2001,
12:23 AM |
As far as I am concerned this thread or another iteration of
it will remain open and topped until further notice.
Rest assured - if everyone is to heal and or get to some
semblance of peace with the world, meeting places such as this
need to exist.
************************** Here in my hometown last
night we had an entire stadium of highschool football fans
fill the stadium with glow sticks that were passed out for the
occasion.
The Western Washington State Fair which is two blocks away
did something similar. The entire town was silent. About
five minutes later the stadium and the fair errupted in chants
of USA! USA! it was amazing.
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By NicciStar
|
09-16-2001,
02:04 AM |
Hi i'm in Australia and i was deeply affected by this tragedy.
To all who were affected my thoughts and prayers go out to
you. May all loved ones return home safe and well.
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By Maealoeki
|
09-16-2001,
10:09 AM |
I just wanted to check in and tell you that I'm home. We
touched down back in Cincinnati about an hour ago, and I'm
sitting here wrapped in a blanket with by daughter in my lap,
happy to be here, touched by the outpouring of prayers and
thoughts for me and the other rescuers, and not for the first
time (or the last) damn proud to be an American.
God bless all the rescuers still there... and those who are
no longer with us.
Maeve MacDermod (maealoeki)
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By candy729
|
09-16-2001,
11:38 AM |
I want to thank all those who have posted kind words and
thoughts regarding this tragedy especially our international
friends.
I live in New Jersey and have a number of friends who are
still missing family members. My father is a retired Port
Authority officer and is missing many fellow officers. My
brother is an officer with the New York Police Department and
your prayers and support mean a lot as this is a tragedy that
has affected the entire nation. As an American, I know we will
rise above this and stand tall.
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By hibiscuss
|
09-16-2001,
11:42 AM |
Stopping by from Barbados again to let you know we're having
our national candle light vigil in Independence Square tonight
headed by our Prime Minister and the leader of the opposition
party. Individual churches will also have candle light
services. A tropical wave is also passing so if it rains
heavily and I can't go I will light my candle again, from
here.
I just want you to know that the people of Barbados'
prayers are with you in the US and our brothers and sisters in
the Caribbean, as well as those here who have also suffered
losses from this incident. My heart goes out to all of you.
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By virus222
|
09-16-2001,
04:05 PM |
Molly checking in from D.C.! Peace and Love to all!
-m
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By Windame
|
09-16-2001,
04:19 PM |
From Italy... American friends, I just want you to know
that our thoughts, our prayers and our hearts are with you and
your families.
A big hug, Silvia
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By
TeflonCandygirl |
09-16-2001,
04:35 PM |
Hey guys. In light of everything that's happened I was
inspired to write a song for us Americans but it really
applies to everyone who cares. Here it is:
----------
Free
Why do things happen For the good and the bad Without
a reason No reason for being so sad
We go to school and work Everyday a normal
day Expecting nothing Children laugh and play
Then sh*t happens They say for a reason For good or
for bad No reason for being so sad
Chorus Thought you'd tear us apart You brought us
together Thought you'd take away our freedom We'll be
free forever Nothing you can say will hurt us Nothing
you can do will make us weak United we will
stand Together we are free
Such a tragedy Such a shame How was this fun? This
unbelieveable game
We'll pull through We'll move on Daylight is
here Darkness is gone
Tough, willing, helpful Strong, independent,
free Brave, scarless, indestructable Together we are we
Thought you'd tear us apart You brought us
together Thought you'd take away our freedom We'll be
free forever Nothing you can say will hurt us Nothing
you can do will make us weak United we will
stand Together we are free
Together as one We overcome all You think you're
big Really, you're so small
You're jealous You're cruel You're pathetic Such a
fool
Thought you'd tear us apart You brought us
together Thought you'd take away our freedom We'll be
free forever Nothing you can say will hurt us Nothing
you can do will make us weak United we will
stand Together we are free
United we will stand Together we are free
------------
It could also be a poem. Whatever. I just was really
inspired with everything and I wanted to get some feelings on
paper.
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By 3M_chix
|
09-16-2001,
06:19 PM |
From what I heard, those footage shown in CNN where the
Palestenian were celebrating, was taken from the files back in
1991 during the Gulf War between Iraq and Kuwait.
~Sarah
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By Reggie |
09-16-2001,
06:46 PM |
quote:Originally posted by MoonFire: As far as I am
concerned this thread or another iteration of it will remain
open and topped until further notice.
Thank you. Any chance of a :hug: smilie? Or is it
understood by all that :hug: is the hug smilie?
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By V queen
|
09-16-2001,
06:52 PM |
My thoughts and prayers go out to the families and friends
that have been affected by this horrible tragedy. I am so
sorry for your loss.
UNITED WE STAND!
~Brittany~
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By
JenniferLynn36 |
09-16-2001,
08:35 PM |
I obviously don't post very much, but I found it necessary to
reach out at this time. I am over on the west coast, but I
feel the tragety as strongly as if I were in the middle of it.
The first thing I did when I saw the event unfold on my t.v.
was call my east coast friends, cry, hug my family, and cry
some more. Though I am still really torn up about the whole
thing, I find it really comforting to hear from those of you
over- seas. Thank you for being comforting and supportive to
those of us in the U.S. I hope out of this tragety we can
come together and rediscover our patriotism.
"We have not lost anyone, only gained many angels."
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By Berengaria
|
09-16-2001,
10:18 PM |
3M-Chix,Thank you for the information but it is irrelevant
whether Palestinians are celebrating this act or sympathizing
with us. This is not about anything but that terrorists must
not be allowed to inflict this ever escalating violence upon
the world. We are all going to band together now to stop
it.
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By
angel-kittie |
09-16-2001,
10:46 PM |
May God Bless Us All.
God Bless America!
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By
crashdowndiner |
09-17-2001,
03:19 AM |
We in Roswell NM have only one way to react to the unspeakable
horror which has ocurred in NYC and DC, With, Prayers for the
injured, the missing, those who are no longer with Us &
thier Families & Friends. Prayers for our Nation and the
World in such a trying time. We react with anger, but we
do not allow the anger to consume our every fiber. We focus on
today and look forward to tomorrow. We are a small (under
50,000) and remote community, more than three hours from any
large city. However even here we are forever changed by the
events of this last week. All those I have spoken to are
of the same mind. We must do something. We all hope and pray
for peace in the world, but we all know that there can never
be peace as long as the beasts who commit such hanus acts go
unpunished. We have over 150 churches in our community and we
all pray for the day when all of mankind can hold out a hand
in frienship, instead of to picking up a weapon in hatred.
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By
courtney_lovesm |
09-17-2001,
03:21 AM |
America and other countries mourning from terrorists attacks
will forever learn from others mistakes, unforunaltely.
America stands tall and will always be looked up to by fellow
countries like us from Australia ALl those that are helping
with the clean up are angels. love always
Courtney
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By Kate1176
|
09-17-2001,
04:32 AM |
I just want to say that even though I am over here in New
Zealand, the terrible events of that day have still affected
us. There are alot of people in shock and disbelief. I just
want to extend my condolences to anyone who lost someone close
to them. My thoughts are with you all.
Kia Kaha (This means 'Stay Strong' in Maori, one of the
native languages of NZ)
Kate
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By plumeria
|
09-17-2001,
08:01 AM |
Has this been posted yet? My mom passed it on to me.
This Reaffirmation of the Spirit of America was written
by Chicago Sun-Times Columnist Richard Roeper and sent to you
by
BuzzFlash.com. http://www.suntimes.com/output/roeper/cst-nws-roep14.html
THE SPIRIT OF AMERICA: BOWED, BUT UNBROKEN
September 14, 2001
BY RICHARD ROEPER SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST
I am the spirit of America. I am the Stars and Stripes
waving proudly from homes, schools, football fields, office
buildings and government centers.
I am New York City Chief of Department Peter J. Ganci, Jr.,
First Deputy Fire Commissioner William Feehan, Capt. Raymond
Downey and FDNY Chaplain Mychal Judge.
I am the hundreds of firefighters, policemen and Port
Authority officers who are missing and will not be found.
I am the men and women who knew they were going to die and
thus jumped from the towers, choosing to have some measure of
control over the last breaths they would take.
I am the thousands of volunteers who have rolled up their
sleeves and donned surgical masks to aid the workers digging
through the incomprehensible rubble and debris in lower
Manhattan.
I am Michael Benfante, 22, and John Cerqueria, 36, who
carried a disabled woman down 68 floors of a World Trade
Center stairwell and placed the woman in an emergency van.
I am the passengers aboard United Airlines Flight 93 who
fought with their hijackers and brought the plane down outside
Pittsburgh, 250 miles from its intended target in Washington,
D.C.
I am the dozens of passengers aboard the other hijacked
planes who called loved ones to say goodbye, or tried to alert
authorities.
I am the pilots and flight attendants on those planes.
I am President George W. Bush, doing and saying the right
things in the face of an unprecedented national tragedy.
I am former President Bill Clinton and former Vice
President Al Gore, voicing unconditional support for President
Bush.
I am the members of Congress, standing on the steps of the
Capitol and breaking into a rendition of "God Bless America."
I am the loved ones who are holding up photos on TV,
pasting leaflets on the side of TV news vans, and keeping
vigil in the faint hopes that their mother, their father,
their child, will be found.
I am the crowds lining the streets of lower Manhattan,
cheering the rescue workers and truck drivers and technicians
heading to the disaster site.
I am the nurses and doctors who have come to New York to
help.
I am the millions of Americans who have reached out to
friends with e-mails and phone calls saying, "I hope you're
all right I hope you didn't lose anyone close to you, and if I
haven't said it lately, I love you."
I am New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, wearing a cap and
sweatshirt emblazoned with logos of the New York City Fire
Department, standing strong and calm and forceful while
addressing the city.
I am the thousands upon thousands of Americans in Los
Angeles and Denver and Phoenix and Detroit and Philadelphia
who have lined up to donate blood.
I am the electric ribbon of red, white and blue rimming the
top of the John Hancock Center on a Wednesday night in
September.
I am the New Yorkers who have laid flowers and
hand-scribbled words of mourning at the site of the disaster.
I am the construction workers who fashioned stretchers from
materials at their nearby work sites, and then joined the
firefighters and the police in rescue efforts.
I am the Chicago-area firefighters who rode in a caravan of
RVs and SUVs to New York to offer assistance to their
colleagues.
I am the people gathered in Riverfront Park in Spokane,
Wash., singing "Amazing Grace."
I am the business professionals who have donated coffee,
food, hotel rooms, phones and other services.
I am the journalists covered in soot and risking their own
safety so they can tell the world what has happened.
I am the camera operators who stood strong and took video
and still photographs, even as people around them ran for
their lives.
I am General Electric, donating $10 million to the families
of emergency workers who have lost their lives.
I am the investigators who are working swiftly and with
precision to identify the terrorists and their accomplices.
I am the Pentagon workers who aren't coming home.
I am Ronnie Clifford, who was trying to save a woman's life
outside the first tower, even as his own sister was aboard the
United Airlines plane that was about to hit the second tower.
I am the rescue personnel who toil to the point of
exhaustion, take a break--and then get back to the most grisly
and heartbreaking work imaginable.
I am the millions of Americans who will mourn, weep,
pray--and never forget.
I am the spirit of America, and I am alive and strong, and
you can never kill me.
Copyright by the Chicago Sun-Times
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By majiklmoon
|
09-17-2001,
11:00 AM |
I am emailing every radio station i can find in my area the
following letter. I hope you will consider doing the same. to
get a list of radio stations in your area go to askjeeves.com
and ask for a list of radio station web pages and it will give
you a link majiklmoon
hi...I am trying to get radio stations to play this
song on tuesday the 18th at 12:00 noon as a way of showing we
are not going to stand for what happened in our great country.
the song is Invincible by Pat Benetar. I am emailing as many
radio stations as I can, but if you could spread the word too,
it would be a great help. Here are the lyrics so you can see
how fitting the tune really is
thank you
Invincible - Pat Benetar
This bloody road remains a mystery This sudden darkness
fills the air What are we waiting for? Won't anybody
help us? What are we waiting for? We can't afford to be
innocent Stand up and face the enemy It's a do or die
situation We will be invincible
This shattered dream you cannot justify We're gonna
scream until we're satisified What are we running
for? We've got the right to be angry What are we running
for? When there's no where we can run to anymore
We can't afford to be innocent Stand up and face the
enemy It's a do or die situation We will be
invincible And with the power of conviction There is no
sacrifice It's a do or die situation We will be
invincible
Won't anybody help us? What are we running for? When
there's no where, no where we can run to anymore
We can't afford to be innocent Stand up and face the
enemy It's a do or die situation We will be
invincible And with the power of conviction There is no
sacrifice It's a do or die situation We will be
invincible
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By 'Isabel'
|
09-17-2001,
01:07 PM |
Hey guys, this is Izzy checking in from the UK. I just want to
say that everyone over here is supporting you. Love to u
all, Izzy -x-
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By Kian Ronin
|
09-17-2001,
02:15 PM |
After the dark day of Tue. has passed and the day of recovery
and mourning has yet to lie before us all as a nation.I cant
but hope and pray for those afected by this tragety. And
with all the hatred and anger brought about i can't but feel
pride in the outpour of human kindness despite it all. From
those brave few who risk but all life and comfort to extend
there hand and self to help those in need and are
suffering.And to the countless other,who in there own way may
it big or small,in terms of doneting blood,money or
prayed. And as the day goes on and the clamor of action
amongs ourselfs echo still i am but reminded of words i read
in a book so long ago......... Peace over Anger Honor
over Hate Strength over Fear
Kian Ronin
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By Minnie |
09-17-2001,
04:24 PM |
I am not sure of the reliability of this information but a
friend e-mailed it to me today.
"Monday, Sept. 17:
... just heard on the radio that the U.S. has asked that
everyone step out on their lawns tonight at 10:30 PM EST
(that’s 9:00 PM CST, 8:30 PM MST and 7:30 PM PST) and light a
candle. They will be taking a satellite picture of the U.S.
and posting it on the news tomorrow morning."
I will be out on my lawn, lighting my candle like I did
last week.
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By sars |
09-17-2001,
09:09 PM |
here's a link to a nice tribute homepage with images from all
over the world supporting America after the 09-11-01
NYC/Pentagon
tragedy: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~tchemp/temp/thankyou.html
God Bless Us All
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By
spikeiscool |
09-18-2001,
12:14 AM |
i wish there more i can do
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By
BuffyAngelFan04 |
09-18-2001,
12:23 AM |
I just wanted to say that I very much appreciate everyone's
kind words, e-mails and PMs. It hasn't been easy for me these
past days but knowing that people I have never met [I have
only posted with] care so much. I am so fortunate to know so
many of you and just thinking that you cared helped me a great
deal.
A couple days ago I was very un-focused in class and my
teacher had sent me to my guidence counseler. At the time I
was filled with anger, sadness and all I could think about was
how unfair it was and that everything sucked. My counseler
asked me to list some positive things. She told me to go home,
get some rest and compile a list of positive things that are
happening now as a result of the event. She said it was better
for me if I did and that I would feel better. It really
helped. After thinking for a while I wrote my list. I know
this may be old news but I really wanted to share my list with
you in hope that you all can see this situation the same way
that I do now.
I thought about all the random acts of kindness I have been
hearing about.
When people needed to walk across the bridge to get out
of the city, A man who owned a shoe store gave a pair of shoes
to every women who was in high-heels. A deli nearby offered
food to anyone who came in free of charge. Brave New
Yorkers risked their lives and gave their lives to save
others. Officers, firemen, and civilians, knowing that the
chance of them getting out safely was very slim, still rushed
into buildings helping people escape. My english teacher
told us that when she went to give blood, she had to wait 8
hours in line People on messageboards all over are
offering a place for anyone without a home to
stay Politicians Republican or Democrtaic put their
differances aside and sang together People brought food to
hospitals where many anxious family members were waiting
because they have been there all day A group of men drove
through the night from Dallas to Washington to bring skin
grafts for burned victims At the Lincoln Memorial a few
days ago, some 500 people turned out for a candlelight vigil.
They sang the National Anthem as they gathered in a show of
support for not only the rescuers working at the Pentagon and
the World Trade Center, but for the country as a whole.
In school, during 2nd period classes each student was given
either a red, white or blue piece of construction paper and we
each wrote things on them. For instance things we felt and
things we wanted to say. In the end, all the pieces of paper
were put together to make a great big flag to put up in the
student commons area at our school. I wrote that list on my
piece. Everytime I look at it it makes me feel better. It's a
collective collage expressing what our community feels and it
means so much.
My two cents. I think it's important to remember this event
and use it as learning experiance. I know I have. I hope that
we will be able to be carefree again but I think that our
leaders may have to change their attitudes. So far all you can
hear is about how we are going to get back at them for what
they did. There is nothing about what caused the problem to
begin with. I think we must look hard and find the root of the
problem to fix it, peace will not come out of war. America has
always been a very powerful and arrogant country. I wonder now
if our arrogance has not gotten us in trouble. I don't know at
this point how we could ever track these people down. I wish
they could find them and prosecute them according to the law
without starting a war. Unfortunately, there are many angry
people in the country today and they all want retaliation and
I don't think they are thinking about what will be happening
to the innocent people in those countries they want bombed. No
one wins a war. Everyone loses. US will never learn this
lesson. Yet the world continues to turn. I pray that
everything will turn out for the highest good of all, that is
all that I can do.
As I have been reading through your posts I have read
about people who think their words are worthless because
everyone has said it already. Please do not for a second think
that your post is worthless. Every single little comment has
made me feel a bit better. Thank you all again for
everything. Thank you for including me and my family in your
prayers. I believe there are people out there who have lost
much more than I and they will be in my prayers as well. I
feel incredibly blessed that there are so many people who
would offer their sympathies and condolences in my time of
need. I can only hope that when you need something, I can be
as kind to you as you have been to me
With Love BuffyAngelFan04 Jessie
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By plumeria
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09-18-2001,
06:10 AM |
Jessie (BuffyAngelFan04) - thank you so much for sharing. I'm
glad you have found some support with us here, in this
difficult time. I'm one of those "never met you" people, but
you *are* in my thoughts. Anyone who has lost someone dear
knows how much it hurts, but they also find out that it is
possible to survive, to go on. I wish you the strength to
achieve that goal. Please continue to post and let us know how
you are doing.
And I agree -- to everyone else, the words are not
meaningless, empty -- I know they all come from your hearts.
The show of worldwide unity over this event has been truly
astounding, and it chokes me up whenever I think about it.
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By Absolutely
Addicted |
09-18-2001,
09:53 AM |
This was emailed to me a few days ago, and though I don't
agree with all of the United States' foreign policies, I do
agree with this editorial.
Here, then, America - from Canada to you...
************* America: The Good Neighbour.
Widespread but only partial news coverage was given
recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by
Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What
follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed
in the Congressional Record:
"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the
Americans as the most generous and possibly the least
appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a
lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris
of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is
today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the
United States.
"When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was
the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be
insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I
saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United
States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American
communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The
Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars
into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries
are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd
like to see just one of those countries that is gloating
over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own
airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to
equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the
Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the
International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why
does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or
woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and
you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get
automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find
men on the moon - not once, but several times and safely
home again.
"You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs
right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their
draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on
our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking
Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at
home to spend here.
"When the railways of France, Germany and India were
breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt
them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York
Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both
are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans
raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me
even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in
trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the
San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbours have faced it alone,
and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get
kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their
flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb
their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present
troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those."
Stand proud, America!"
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By Mogley |
09-18-2001,
10:01 AM |
Absolutely Addicted: Thanks for posting that article. While I
agree with its sentiment, the version of the editorial that
has been floating around recently leaves out some rather
pertinent facts. First, that editorial was broadcast in 1973
after America had pulled out of Vietnam and the dollar was
tumbling. Second, the international community has rallied
around the US after the tragedies of September 11. Third, the
man who spoke those words sadly died of a heart attack several
years ago.
All of that having been said, I still thank the author and
Canadians in general for their support of the US, and I trust
that we will come out of this with our heads held high, much
like when this article was broadcast.
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By Absolutely
Addicted |
09-18-2001,
10:07 AM |
Mogley: Actually, I do know that it was an old editorial. (I
had no idea that it was from 1973, though! Wow! It's older
than me!) Anyway, the reason I posted it was because its
sentiment is as true now as it was then, and hopefully, it can
still provide some comfort to so many who, understandably, may
feel alone.
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By Mogley |
09-18-2001,
11:45 AM |
AA: I completely understand. I just wanted to make sure people
realized that the editorial was not recent... but the
sentiment DEFINITELY is.
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By
BuffyAngelFan04 |
09-18-2001,
12:49 PM |
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By
CosmicCandy |
09-18-2001,
01:49 PM |
This was such a horrible event. I can't believe it happened.
All of those people who suffered and died. At least it has
brought us all a little closer. My prayers go out to ALL of
the victims and families.
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By
shapeshifter |
09-18-2001,
05:08 PM |
quote:Originally posted by BuffyAngelFan04: ...My two
cents. I think it's important to remember this event and use
it as learning experiance. I know I have. I hope that we will
be able to be carefree again but I think that our leaders may
have to change their attitudes. So far all you can hear is
about how we are going to get back at them for what they did.
There is nothing about what caused the problem to begin with.
I think we must look hard and find the root of the problem to
fix it, ...BuffyAngelFan, if the leaders of the world had the
insight and maturity that you have, I think we might just have
a chance at peace. I hope you continue to study in school so
maybe some day you can be in a position to make a difference.
I am sure I am not the only one who will always think of
you and your loss and your beautiful spirit when I think of
this event. Thank you for sharing with us all.
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By Angela |
09-19-2001,
11:14 PM |
I am going to de-top this thread so only 2 thread will remain
topped.
Thanks
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