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Posted 09-30-2002 09:30 AM by black widow    
we were having a great discussion about the various roswell books coming out over the next little while before the board crashed.

to recap, the books that have come out so far are: no good deed, little green men and shades. there are, i think, 4 more books in the works (maybe 5? not sure), with one being released every other month for the next little while. i'll post the info later, unless someone else has it and can beat me to it!

roswellians should also be on the lookout for a TERRIFIC new book about the show, the cast and the fans (yes, you!) -- crashdown and fanforum is heavily mentioned! it's called crash into you by robin burnett, and i've had a sneak peek ... it's fabulous! it should be available in early november, and we're going to be holding a book launch party in toronto -- stay tuned for more info!

Posted 09-30-2002 09:50 AM by shapeshifter    
Black Widow, I finished Shades this am and couldn't help but take the last 2 lines as a personal shout out since I am a Librarian (and like to think of myself as "the helpful, understanding librarian." Plus, in "About the Author" it says about Mel Odom:
    "...he's known to hang out on the Internet until way after the cows come home..."
Back to work now!

Posted 09-30-2002 10:29 AM by black widow    
shapeshifter, what did you think of shades? i have to say, i was extremely disappointed. i'll post more on that later ... i just found the book boring.
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in some cases, the author went into technical detail so much my mind was spinning. in other instances, he glossed over things he really should have spent more time explaining. not to mention, if i had to read about "sibilant" voices one more time ... ... he just seemed to really like that word. a lot. i also didn't like how he arbitrarily threw in a fight between michael and maria ... why bother bringing that up if you aren't going to revisit it later in the plot? it served no purpose whatsoever, other than to make her look like a shrew and him look even more sullen than usual. and i didn't really understand the signifcance of the title, either!

as you can see ... i really didn't like this one! i'm hoping the next one will be better, i think it's about isabel and dreamwalking, can't remember.

Posted 09-30-2002 12:00 PM by Berengaria    
Skeletons in the Closet will be the next one out (in Nov.).

Posted 09-30-2002 12:13 PM by black widow    
cheers, Berengaria!

Posted 09-30-2002 02:12 PM by Lizwell    
What's the date on the Crash Into Me book some time in oct right?

Posted 09-30-2002 03:47 PM by Maizli    
I loved all of the books so far. Shades was great.

Posted 09-30-2002 04:22 PM by black widow    
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Originally posted by Lizwell:
What's the date on the Crash Into Me book some time in oct right?

it's been postponed to early november, and is currently at the printers, according to robyn (the author)!

Posted 09-30-2002 05:21 PM by shae24    
hey guys...i was so sad and was having withdrawls from my favorite boards being down that i decided to go buy a roswell book...i dropped by my local bookstore and they only had a few so i bought "loose ends"...it started off a little slow but picked up and in the end...near the last 50 pages i couldn't put it down...i almost bought "shades" but it looked a little boring anyway just wanted to recommend "loose ends"...it was pretty good...i'm glad that it was my first one to read out of the series...

Posted 09-30-2002 11:30 PM by xVMoonStarVx    
Hey all,
As most know already but just case you did not, the titles for the upcoming books are as followed.

Skeletons in the Closet
DreamWalk
Quarantine

I finished Shades and was not impressed at all, acually I to was diapointed, I caught myself even skipping some paragraphs thats how bored I was, I;m sure the tilte was meaning for the supposed Shades the supposed SPOILER!!!
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Looking forward to readinf Skeletons soon, till then Ciao..
Kat

Posted 09-30-2002 11:34 PM by PrometheusUFO    
According to BN.com the release dates are actually a little sooner.

  • "Roswell: Skeletons In The Closet" by Andy Mangels & Michael A. Martin - Oct 15th
  • "Roswell: Dreamwalk" by Paul Ruditis - Dec 17th

So I would expect "Roswell: Quarantine" by Laura Burns to be out in mid-February if the trend continues.

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Posted 10-01-2002 12:48 AM by icicle    
quote:
Originally posted by black widow:

roswellians should also be on the lookout for a TERRIFIC new book about the show, the cast and the fans (yes, you!) -- crashdown and fanforum is heavily mentioned! it's called crash into you by robin burnett, and i've had a sneak peek ... it's fabulous! it should be available in early november, and we're going to be holding a book launch party in toronto -- stay tuned for more info!


fionna: anyone we know named or interviewed for it?

Posted 10-01-2002 06:22 AM by black widow    
absolutely! netranger, lilybunny (RIHHIN), myself and several others were interviewed, and there are numerous roswellian folks mentioned throughout the book with regards to the parties, the campaign crew, the fundraising, the various shipper groups, the rosquilters, etc. you really get a sense of how tightly-knit and diverse our little community is when you read it!

and my bad, the book is called crash into ME, not crash into YOU. (i should have known that!)

ps: thanks prometheus UFO for updating us on those release dates -- yay!

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Posted 10-02-2002 07:09 AM by shapeshifter    
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Originally posted by PrometheusUFO:
..."Roswell: Quarantine" by Laura Burns...

Cool --a Roswell book by Laura Burns! May there be many more!
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I disagree about Shades being boring, but yeah, I remember thinking, 'not another "ghost,"' about half way through.
I liked the scifi & mythology concepts, but found the editing/explanations a little careless, including (as Black Widow said), a lack of clarity on some points.

I was jarred by Maria speaking as the know-it-all scientist instead of Liz (who was little more than arm candy for Max), and asked the author about this. He said he had a mandate from TPTB to make it more Maria/Michael focused. So maybe (as with the show) this meddling from on high was what led to the disjointed parts.

Posted 10-04-2002 12:02 AM by Thicket    
quote:
Originally posted by black widow:
and there are numerous roswellian folks mentioned throughout the book with regards to the parties, the campaign crew, the fundraising, the various shipper groups, the rosquilters, etc.

Really? Campaign Crew?

Can't wait to get Crash Into Me. You guys, remember to use the following link when ordering the book online. It'll help Fan Forum:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1550225391/fanforum/103-4261566-5860612

Posted 10-04-2002 03:57 AM by The Kender    
I just wanted to add that i liked Shades. The only book that i have been disapointed in was Little Green Men which i thought had been dumbed down.

Posted 10-04-2002 06:20 AM by black widow    
quote:
Originally posted by Thicket:
[QB]Really? Campaign Crew? [QB]

really. campaign crew. or should i say, campaign crews, because all the campaigning from seasons 1, 2 and part of 3 (due to the time the book had to go to print, i think some of 3 might have been left out) is summarised and many who led the campaigns are mentioned by name. like i said, it's a great book, and a really wonderful trip down memory lane if you've been haunting these boards for the past few years ...

Posted 10-04-2002 06:42 AM by FehrsTabascoGirlie    
Could somebody please give me some info about "Little green men"?!
I'm from Germany and here the book is not released yet!
Is the main emphasis on a special couple?
Thanks!

Posted 10-04-2002 08:28 PM by b r i a n    
I love Little Green Men Here is a pic:

IMAGE: images.amazon.com/images/P/1550225391.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

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Posted 10-04-2002 09:40 PM by shapeshifter    
quote:
Originally posted by FehrsTabascoGirlie:
Could somebody please give me some info about "Little green men"?!
I'm from Germany and here the book is not released yet!
Is the main emphasis on a special couple?
Thanks!


I thought Little Green Men stayed closest to the personalities of the characters of any of the post-Roswell High series books released thus far.
From Amazon:
IMAGE: images.amazon.com/images/P/0743418360.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
    "...At first it seems amusing when Kyle Valenti's skin takes on a lime-colored hue. But within hours, the hospital has become a disaster area, full of humans who look more like aliens than the real "Scandinavian" occupants of Roswell. Soon, Maria and Alex have joined the club, and Max decides to use his powers to return them to normal. Except his healing touch apparently doesn't work when the trouble is cosmetic, and not life-threatening.

    "While the military forces the colored population into top secret quarantine camps, Liz searches for a scientific explanation and finds a familiar culprit -- and a new sense of urgency. Within forty-eight hours, this alien contaminant will change the humans' skin permanently, leaving the humans green...and Max, Michael, and Isabel unveiled...."

Posted 10-04-2002 10:46 PM by black widow    
absolutely agreed! i thought little green men was the most like an episode of the show -- it had good ensemble work, bits of humour, and a plot that seemed plausible and not totally complicated to the point where you got a headache trying to figure it out (can you tell how much i really hated 'shades? ) ). yeah, it sort of dumbed things down a bit, but i thought it was nice, light reading and i enjoyed it much more than the other two.

by the way -- stay tuned for a Q & A session with robyn burnett, the author of the new roswell book, coming soon! we're still going to be having a book launch event here in toronto in november some time when the book is finally released ... it's in the planning stage right now, but more details as they become available!

Posted 10-05-2002 02:04 PM by FehrsTabascoGirlie    
Thanks for the info

Posted 10-05-2002 07:04 PM by Lizwell    
getting all misty reading about this book... Can't wait for Crash into you

Posted 10-05-2002 08:39 PM by the Traveler    
Since Roswell ended with 3 seasons, instead of a full run like Star Trek & Stargate...

Are there any books that pick up after "Graduation" or do they just follow the original books?

What's this "Crash Into You" book?

Posted 10-05-2002 10:00 PM by Berengaria    
Here's the blurb on "Crash Into You":

Book Description
Roswell fans and UFO buffs will love learning about the alien mythology and the 1947 Roswell crash that prompted Jason Katims (creator of My So-Called Life) and David Nutter (creator of The X-Files) to combine forces and spawn the hit television show Roswell. This is an intense, intelligent drama that explores the lives of three alien/human hybrid teenagers as they struggle to keep their true identity secret, elude the FBI, battle enemy alien forces, and lead normal teenage lives. A look at the show, its fans, and its history, this guide is packed with biographies and photographs of the cast, detailed commentaries on each episode, and information on how to find the best Roswell information on the Web.

None of the books I have read yet have been post graduation.

Posted 10-06-2002 08:22 PM by black widow    
i was just talking to robyn a little while ago, and she verified the correct name of the book is: Crash Into Me: The World of Roswell. stay tuned for that Q&A session coming up some time over the next couple of weeks!

Posted 10-07-2002 11:17 AM by kla    
Have a question for those avid Roswell readers...

I'm a huge fan of Roswell, but have not read any of the books (at 50 I feel just a little silly standing at the "young adult" section of the book store). Actually, when I get there I'm at a loss as to which books to get. Should they be read in a particular order? Should I start with the Roswell High series by Metz, or go straight for the other authors. I end up walking out with nothing, because I can't seem to make up my mind.

Any suggestions? Thanks for your help.

Posted 10-07-2002 11:42 AM by black widow    
do what i do ... drag your goddaughter in with you and say the books are a "birthday present."

the books by melinda metz are wonderful, but if you're a first-time reader, bear in mind they exist in a totally parallel universe to the events on the show. in some ways, they are a lot richer, i think. still, it's hard to read the books if you've seen the TV show first and not think of the onscreen characters. there are several key plot similarities between the books and the TV series, but there are also numerous difference. each is wonderful in it's own way, and i would say that melinda's books are DEFINITELY worth reading -- just keep in mind the storylines and characters aren't necessarily 100 per cent in sync with what you've seen on the show.

as for the other three books that have come out -- shades, no good deed and little green men -- all three are stand alones and not part of a series, so you could read them in any order. these are 100 per cent based on the TV series, and take place at different points throughout the show's timeline (nothing post-season 3 so far) so you'll be more familiar with the plots and characters and may have an easier time visualising them. personally, i don't think they're as good as melinda's books, but they're mostly enjoyable, light reading.

hope that helped!

Posted 10-07-2002 12:55 PM by LTL    
kla: I'm a Boomer myself and felt silly buying my first Ros books -- until I talked to the cashier at Crown Books, who turned out to be a fan who was very active in promoting Majandra's CD.

I'd suggest reading Melinda Metz's books first -- and in order -- because they give you a real feel for the inspiration for the series. I like Black Widow's suggestion that you think of this Roswell as a parallel universe. You'll see similarities, but there are some big differences, like Max being a blond!

I enjoyed the series so much that I read her next young adult series, Fingerprints.

I wasn't crazy about Loose Ends; it felt kind of unstructured to me, and the characters didn't feel quite right. Little Green Men was much more like an ep of Roswell and fit right into a gap in the series very well.

I've just bought Shades and will be reading it soon.

Posted 10-07-2002 02:19 PM by i luv u jason    
why in the books does liz last name say ortecho and it says max hair is blond? and alex last name is different also?

Posted 10-07-2002 03:58 PM by black widow    
welcome to the boards.

the 10 books by melinda metz, the "roswell high" series, were partially written BEFORE the TV show aired (i think about 5 or 6 had been published by the time the pilot episode of the TV show aired, and melinda wrote the remaining books during the rest of season 1).

kevin brown then picked up the rights from the publisher to make the books into a TV show, but they wound up tweaking some of the things from the books for the TV show -- which is why liz has a different surname, and why max has blond hair! (could you picture jason behr playing max as a blond? ... neither could i! :lol there was also a big thing about liz originally being latina in the books, and the production team had concerns about keeping the character's name as "ortega" if she wasn't going to be played by a latina (which shiri is not -- though i think she could totally pass for a latina!). they originally changed liz's name to "porter" but then there was felicity "porter" on another show, so they switched it to "parker." between porter, parker and (joey) potter ... you'd think they could have come up with something more original!

Posted 10-07-2002 04:48 PM by i luv u jason    
thanx black widow for the info. i know i couldnt picture max as a blond

Posted 10-07-2002 05:57 PM by black widow    
yeah ... max (jason) as a blond would be way too much of a "freddie prinze jr. in scooby doo" look for me!

Posted 10-07-2002 06:20 PM by shapeshifter    
quote:
Originally posted by kla:
...have not read any of the books (at 50 I feel just a little silly standing at the "young adult" section of the book store....
hi kla! I'm just a year younger than you are.
ITA with everything Black Widow and LTL said above.
You can also buy them from Amazon or Barnes & Nobel online.
I bought my first set when I was a high school librarian--it was a great excuse.
Then I left that job and bought some in the store and some online. It helps if you just march in and say, "I'm looking for whatever-title by whichever-author. I think it's in the young adult or science fiction section." You could be getting them for a present for someone.
But yeah, start with The Outsider, Book 1 by Metz.

Posted 10-08-2002 10:38 AM by kla    
Just want to say thanks to everyone who commented about the various books. Now I don't feel so silly about reading them and am really looking forward to all of them.

Thanks again.

Posted 10-08-2002 11:05 AM by shapeshifter    
Hey, kla, an OT Question:
Since we were both in school in the same grade at the same time, did you ever see a sex-ed flick with lions doing it like they showed last week on Smallville? Or do you not watch SV?

Posted 10-08-2002 12:28 PM by Misha    
Now, that's what I call an "OT"

Anyway, staying on toppic, I will also agree that reading Roswell High first is the way to go (I've read the entire collection like 4 times, and I still can't get Max as a blond... I had no problem with Isabel cheerleading, or Alex as a red hair... but Max?? uh-uh... it's not happening )

Once you are in like book 3, you can pretty much stay on the plot of the books without thinking on the show.

And personally, I liked a lot more No Good Deed from the Roswell TV Series book than the other two. Haven't read Shades yet, but I've read some very different opinions about it. Anyway, I'm going to read it And big thanks for those who warned about Shades "spoilers" in here! It is highly appreciate!

Misha

Posted 10-08-2002 12:51 PM by PrometheusUFO    
I started reading the Roswell High books once they first started, about a year before the TV series. It was kind of odd having to throw out my mental pics of all the characters halfway through reading the series and replacing them with the tv series versions.

Also, I've made a central page for everything Roswell on my site:
http://prometheusrealm.tripod.com/roswell/

It includes a Roswell book guide, mp3s, and some other things..

Posted 10-08-2002 12:52 PM by GraceKel    
Does anyone know who has the rights to these books, and who decides how they are written.

The reason I ask is because I read MM's first ten book series, although I liked the TV show Season1 better than these, it certainly had entertainment value and were obviously geared to young readers.

The last one I read was LOOSE ENDS but was not too thrilled with them suddenly trying to make this appeal heavily to male readers and totally ignoring their female ones, making somewhat the same mistakes the show has made and look how that turned out, I was wondering if there was a place to offer feedback to the publishers?

Posted 10-08-2002 02:29 PM by Thicket    
bw, looking forward to the Q&A with Robyn Burnett! And if I were in Canada, I'd definitely be at the signing - sounds fun!

Posted 10-08-2002 09:15 PM by black widow    
thicket -- the Q&A with robyn should be up on crashdown sometime within the next 48 hours or so -- watch for it!


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Originally posted by GraceKel:
Does anyone know who has the rights to these books, and who decides how they are written.

which series of books do you mean? the first series (melinda's) are published by either 14th street publications or 16th street publications ... i can't remember the exact name! anyway, i'm sure they still own the copyright. but as mentioned before, when the TV rights were optioned, kevin brown bought those.

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The last one I read was LOOSE ENDS but was not too thrilled with them suddenly trying to make this appeal heavily to male readers and totally ignoring their female ones, making somewhat the same mistakes the show has made and look how that turned out, I was wondering if there was a place to offer feedback to the publishers?

according to the book jackets, the new book series is owned by simon pulse, which is an "imprint" (division) of simon & schuster. however, as these new books are a tv tie-in, there is also copyright here for 20th century fox, regency entertainment and monarchy enterprises. it sure gets confusing, doesn't it?

the address listed for simon pulse is:

simon pulse
an imprint of simon & schuster
children's publishing division
1230 avenue of the americaas
new york, NY 10020

having said that ... the author of shades, mel odom, also lists his e-mail address on the back inside cover of the book. because we don't publish people's private e-mail addresses on this forum without their express knowledge and consent, i am not going to list it here, but it's easy enough to find if you own a copy of shades! i thought about emailing him with some feedback about the book, but as my mother said, if you don't have anything nice to say ...

hope that all helped!

Posted 10-08-2002 09:34 PM by GraceKel    
Thanks Black Widow for that information, I appreciate you taking the time to post that. Oh and I know that old saying too-LOL but my mom also taught me another one, "Progress can't be made if you are being too polite".

Posted 10-09-2002 11:08 AM by nightshadow    
quote:
Originally posted by black widow:
the address listed for simon pulse is:

simon pulse
an imprint of simon & schuster
children's publishing division
1230 avenue of the americaas
new york, NY 10020

having said that ... the author of shades, mel odom, also lists his e-mail address on the back inside cover of the book. because we don't publish people's private e-mail addresses on this forum without their express knowledge and consent, i am not going to list it here, but it's easy enough to find if you own a copy of shades! i thought about emailing him with some feedback about the book, but as my mother said, if you don't have anything nice to say ...

hope that all helped!


Then use the sandwich postive/negative/positive. What I found most amusing is that M/L were used on the cover but as someone said M/M were supposed to be the focus so why not use them on the cover? Why none of the books can nail Maria down is beyond me.

Posted 10-09-2002 11:42 AM by LTL    
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Originally posted by black widow:

they originally changed liz's name to "porter" but then there was felicity "porter" on another show, so they switched it to "parker." between porter, parker and (joey) potter ... you'd think they could have come up with something more original!

I never noticed that!

The book signing sounds like lots of fun, and I'm looking forward to the Q&A.

Posted 10-09-2002 04:55 PM by black widow    
nightshadow -- i love the sandwich approach, and i'm a big fan of it, it's a great way to soften criticism. the only problem is ... i seriously have *nothing* positive to say about 'shades'! i honestly disliked it that much. shame the author of 'little green men' didn't leave his e-mail address, cause i would have had lots of great things to say about that one.

and i agree, the portrayal of maria has been all over the map thoughout these 3 books ... did the authors even WATCH the show, i wonder sometimes? in shades it was particularly irksome, and it drove me mad.

and LTL, yeah -- i can't remember where i heard that now, if it was from kevin brown or jason katims or someone else, but in an early version of the pilot script, her surname was 'porter' for sure!

Posted 10-09-2002 06:44 PM by shapeshifter    
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Originally posted by nightshadow:

Then use the sandwich postive/negative/positive. What I found most amusing is that M/L were used on the cover but as someone said M/M were supposed to be the focus so why not use them on the cover? Why none of the books can nail Maria down is beyond me.


nightshadow, I was able to do this because I really did appreciate his bringing in RiverDog & the Native American mythology as it related to the aliens (albeit in a sketchy way--but, hey, what do you expect from pulp fiction? ).
And yeah, he said it was supposed to be M&M-centered, and he even went and gave some science/geek speak Liz lines to Maria (which sooo did not fit). But yeah, then WHY do they have Max & Liz on the cover???
The Metz books featured a different alien in each one--both in the story AND on the cover. --Made more sense.
I guess the Roswell story is suffering from a curse like Maria (the character) felt her songs would be under in the ep where she went to NYC with the talent agent.

Posted 10-10-2002 07:15 AM by black widow    
the Q&A with robyn burnett is up on crashdown:
http://www.crashdown.com/news/3217.shtml

Posted 10-10-2002 08:41 AM by LTL    
Nice job on the Q&A, Black Widow! I enjoyed all the questions about our favorite topics -- what was right about Roswell, what went wrong (if it did) with Roswell, what would you change? It's nice that "one of us" wrote the book, too. Can't wait to read it!

Posted 10-10-2002 01:52 PM by Thicket    
Great job with the Q&A, bw! I know we all appreciate that.

Question though - When I've been going to order the book, it keeps saying that there are only used books available. Am I missing something? I haven't ordered yet because I'd like a new book. Confused.

Posted 10-10-2002 07:05 PM by black widow    
thanks, guys! and thanks from robyn, too, i'm sure -- she's a great person and has become a good friend over the past year. i hope a lot of the local and not-too-far roswellians turn out for the book launch, it's going to be great!

thicket, i'm not sure why you're getting a message for used books ... considering the book hasn't even come out yet, it'd be kind of hard to find a used one! hmmm. i don't know what to suggest, other than contacting one of the admins and letting them know the link isn't working properly?

Posted 10-10-2002 08:27 PM by No Sugar Added Vanilla    
quote:
Originally posted by black widow:
thicket, i'm not sure why you're getting a message for used books ... considering the book hasn't even come out yet, it'd be kind of hard to find a used one! hmmm. i don't know what to suggest, other than contacting one of the admins and letting them know the link isn't working properly?

I think the problem is that the book is available under limited release so the online sites have pre-sold all their copies. If you look on amazon you get the message about buying used books. If you go to barnesandnoble.com you get the message that that the book is temporarily out of stock.

Posted 10-10-2002 09:28 PM by RoswellDreamer5    
I just got "Shades" and "Little Green Men" although I have not started to read them yet. I hope they are good and don't bore me.

-Christy

Posted 10-10-2002 11:33 PM by black widow    
quote:
Originally posted by No Sugar Added Vanilla:
I think the problem is that the book is available under limited release so the online sites have pre-sold all their copies. If you look on amazon you get the message about buying used books. If you go to barnesandnoble.com you get the message that that the book is temporarily out of stock.

ahhh, that makes sense. thank you for that info. wow! well, i suppose it's a great thing for robyn and the publishers that all the pre-order copies have been sold. i wonder if that is the same for amazon.ca or a different country's version (i'm assuming you guys are trying the US version of amazon). i really don't know what to suggest, but i should be talking to robyn and the publishers very soon and i'll make them aware of it ... maybe they can do something about it?

Posted 10-11-2002 04:18 AM by nightshadow    
shapeshifter I felt the same way. The good qualities of this book were River Dog and the mythology. It was a great back drop and should have been more to the forefront and pushed Max's I feel sorry for me because I screwed up personality to the back of the bus.

black widow have you read the book yet? Does it reflect Robyn's views as stated in the great Q&A or did she have to tow a publishers "party line"?

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Posted 10-11-2002 06:42 AM by black widow    
i have had the honour of reading 'crash into me', yes, and even offering a little input into things here and there. (FYI, i believe it's actually scheduled to be back from the printer's today!)

i certainly don't want to put words in her mouth--i'm sure she'd speak for herself here, but i know she's having trouble logging into fan forum--so i guess you'll just have to go by my opinion here about what i've read.

as robyn said in the Q&A, she is a fan of roswell, and i think this definitely shows through in her writing. she really loves the show, the characters and the cast, and has a tremendous respect for the fans. however, she's also aware of roswell's shortcomings and faults, as mentioned in the Q&A. i think she's done a fantastic job of documenting the past three years in as fair, respectful and impartial a manner as possible.


she also pays careful attention to detail--which is a refreshing change from another roswell book that i read which had so many mistakes in it, i threw it down in frustration at one point--and i don't think you'll find any sloppiness or factual errors in the book. (if there are, i'm going to feel pretty foolish cause it was part of my 'job' to watch out for those! ) but she's very thorough and consistent, and i think the book is a wonderful chronicle of one of the best and worst TV shows ever, in my rarely-humble opinion.

Posted 10-11-2002 01:08 PM by Writergal    
HaHA! I finally got on! It's been quite the challenge, let me tell you! I'm the (until now) absent author of "Crash into Me: the World of Roswell."

I thought I'd post to say hello - I do exist. Thank you, Black Widow for being so great with the questions and the lovely compliments. Hey, I couldn't have done it without help!
Nightshadow - I did get the opportunity to voice my own opinions on the episodes, and did so quite often. I was lucky from that respect. The episode guide isn't so much a "synopsis" section, but an "opinion" section. It was great fun to do. As I state at the beginning of the chapter - these are my opinions, please feel free to disagree with any of them.

Also, someone earlier mentioned a problem with amazon.com? I've just put in an email to my publisher to find out more about that. Hopefully he'll get back to me soon.

I'm so glad you are all excited to see the book. To be honest, so am I! I haven't had the chance to see it yet, but it's coming... that I promise.

This is exciting! I'm back on the boards!

Robyn

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Posted 10-11-2002 01:57 PM by Writergal    
quote:

Question though - When I've been going to order the book, it keeps saying that there are only used books available. Am I missing something? I haven't ordered yet because I'd like a new book. Confused.

Regarding that question, Thicket, both my publisher and editor find that very strange. Amazon shouldn't be doing that. My editor's recommendation was to wait two weeks until the book is officially out then order it at that point. Hope that helps.

Robyn

Posted 10-11-2002 02:08 PM by Thicket    
Robyn, welcome! Thanks so much for your help with the strange Amazon occurrence. I'll follow your editor's advice and wait to order. I'm really looking forward to reading the book. And it sounds like it will make a nice keepsake for any fan of Roswell.

Posted 10-11-2002 03:08 PM by Writergal    
Thanks, Thicket! Actually, just reading through the post I realize I need to start reading the new Roswell series of books. Is there a good one to start with?

Posted 10-11-2002 09:10 PM by shapeshifter    
Welcome Writergal!
I guess since you haven't been on the boards before, the 'mythologists' (see the Archives) didn't make it into your book.
But since you obviously love Roswell, I will be sure to read the book anyway.

So, in answer to your question, if you haven't read the Metz books, read them first--in order. The ending of the final book in the series is worth it. I still wish someone (maybe you?) could get the rights to the series to combine them into one full-length novel.

If you're asking about the new books--they all have their flaws, but Little Green Men has the truest characterizations, and Shades has the best mythology (though it does obviously borrow a little from Edgar Allen Poe).

It's interesting that the Metz books, which are classified with the "Young Adult" books, have way more sexual tension than any of the later, slightly longer novels, which I've found in the "Science Fiction" section.

Posted 10-11-2002 10:03 PM by Thicket    
I'm ashamed to say I haven't read ANY of the books. So thanks, shapeshifter, for helping Robyn out.

Posted 10-12-2002 08:03 AM by Shilohaura    
I pre-ordered this book and can't wait to get it!!!

Robin - you really SHOULD check out Shapeshifter's mythology thread or archives! Even though it's too late to get anything in the book, there's some very interesting discussions there and it shows how far this show could've gone with some massive creativity!

Posted 10-12-2002 07:45 PM by Writergal    
Shapeshifter - thanks for the tips on the books. And I'm not sure where you got the idea that your site was not in the book... but it is. Unless my editor has taken it out, which she shouldn't have... you are in the Internet section.
I liked your site very much. Did someone tell you that your site wasn't mentioned? http://www.ulink.net/plum/Roswell/
is the site I have listed in the book. Hope that frown turns into a smile...
Robyn

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Posted 10-12-2002 11:05 PM by shapeshifter    
Writergal, how's this:
Thanks to Black Widow, no doubt!
I just tend to jump to negative conclusions.

Today I have been trying to reconstruct silverhandprint. It is here now. But only one interview is uploaded (the first Liz interview). I can't see the interview because of computer problems, but if it is working, I will upload the others next week. And of course, no copyright infringement intended--this is only for archival purposes--an it's on non-commercially supported, non-profit web space.

Posted 10-13-2002 07:57 PM by black widow    
i'm on holiday in colorado at the moment and not really supposed to be here right now -- but like i can actually ever stay away for long!

just dropping in to say welcome back, robyn -- i'm so glad you got all your access problems sorted out!

and i'm glad, too, the web site made it into the book! yay!

Posted 10-14-2002 01:54 PM by greenjetta    
Is Shades totally about Michael/Maria or do they focus on the other characters too? I just ordered Shades from barnes and noble.com because for some reason my local barnes and noble doesn't carry the Roswell book series. I'm very picky with the books because I don't want to read a lot of Max/Liz stuff. I'd rather read the books that focus on all or most of the characters.

Posted 10-14-2002 01:59 PM by Shilohaura    
I thought Shades had a pretty good blend of characters in it. I enjoyed it.

Posted 10-14-2002 02:21 PM by Misha    
greenjetta Shades doesn't centered on Michael and Maria, though it has a lot of Michael... It does deal with all characters, but some appear more than others...

Anyway, since I've just finished Shades, I'm going to comment it in here:

SHADES SPOILERS:

The book itself was ok. The problem I had with it is that I'm not really into ghost stories. I have to say that, in my opinion, the characters do act like they should at that particular moment (except that I don't get why Maria is angry with Michael for saving Liz... ??? What the hell??? No wonder Michael never wants to argue with her...)

And the reason for the Ghosts... ok, I've read worse... but that was a little bit too convenient that the ship just happened to crash right there. Maybe there *is* something in Roswell that makes all ships collapse... who knows... I actually liked more Little Green Men just because it's an easy story to picture in Roswell world. Did they ever explained why the "ghosts" were so lethal when the aliens were around??? if they did, I totally missed it.

That said, I'm sticking to the fact that No Good Deed is the best out of the four, followed by Little Green Men, Shades and Loose Ends.

Now, I'm assumming all coming Roswell books will be purple? I kind of liked the fact that they were all black... And, I'm sorry if I hurt somebody's feelings, but that cover could have been much MUCH better. If you are going to do a photomontage, at least make it seem well *blend*. I pressent that for one of my HW (I study Graphic Design) and I wouldn't get a good grade... And like somebody else said, why is Max and Liz on the cover? I mean, as far as I know, this story ended even before Max called Liz to make things right, according to Busted!...

Misha

Posted 10-14-2002 05:54 PM by greenjetta    
Thanks for the info on the book, I'm looking forward to reading it.

Posted 10-15-2002 12:09 AM by black widow    
quote:
Originally posted by greenjetta:
Is Shades totally about Michael/Maria or do they focus on the other characters too? I just ordered Shades from barnes and noble.com because for some reason my local barnes and noble doesn't carry the Roswell book series. I'm very picky with the books because I don't want to read a lot of Max/Liz stuff. I'd rather read the books that focus on all or most of the characters.


shades has absolutely nothing to do with michael and maria (which is not at all a dig at your question, more of a dig at the author for his totally inconsistent and stereotypical portrayal of those two characters in the book). and i totally agree, i prefer books that focus on all the characters as an ensemble -- those are my favourite episodes of the show, too -- which i think is why i liked 'little green men' so much.

Posted 10-15-2002 07:08 AM by greenjetta    
Yeah I always loved the episodes where the whole group was together, like Viva Las Vegas or Departure. It was always fun to see the group working together.

Posted 10-15-2002 05:26 PM by nightshadow    
quote:
Originally posted by Misha:
SHADES SPOILERS:

The book itself was ok. The problem I had with it is that I'm not really into ghost stories. I have to say that, in my opinion, the characters do act like they should at that particular moment (except that I don't get why Maria is angry with Michael for saving Liz... ??? What the hell??? No wonder Michael never wants to argue with her...)


I remember having a WTH moment when I read that. That was so unMaria like even with all her personality changes she went through on the show.

Posted 10-15-2002 07:57 PM by shapeshifter    
It would be impolite (and probably unethical) for me to post the Shades author's reply to my email here, but suffice it to say that he said TPTB (editors, I guess?) insisted he beef up the Maria/Michael bickering.
Obviously that just wasn't where he had intended to go with this story, so the bickering fell flat instead of being witty or engaging.

Posted 10-15-2002 09:14 PM by Shilohaura    
Why do TPTB always have to have such major input into things?? Unless they're actually fans, they just need to put up the money and stay out of the way!!!

Posted 10-15-2002 09:14 PM by black widow    
interesting. thank you for letting us know about that. though i still maintain that even if his editors wanted him to beef up the bickering (the hell? why?), he could have at least had some RESOLUTION to it. as it stood, maria freaked out at michael over saving liz (which is a ridiculous premise to begin with), and then it was just ... dropped. never mentioned again, period--which was entirely unsatisfying for this reader! i kept waiting for the scene where *maria's* life would be in danger and michael would come rushing to save her, but it never materialised. so while i can appreciate that he had to bend to the whim of his editors (it happens) by adding that to the plot, it seemed to me to be sloppy writing to just leave it dangling there without tying it up later on in the book. {shrugs} but, maybe that's just me ...

still, thanks for filling us in on the author's response, shapeshifter!

Posted 10-16-2002 03:44 PM by YettaKaren    
So... who's gonna be the first one to read Skeletons in the Closet?

I ordered it from bn.com today.

Wasn't the "official" release date Oct. 15, at least at one point?

Posted 10-16-2002 04:22 PM by black widow    
i doubt we'll get that one in canada until mid-november. but i'm looking forward to hearing what everyone has to say about it!

by the way -- stay tuned for details about the crash into me book launch here in toronto at the end of the month, where robyn will be on hand signing copies of the book!

Posted 10-16-2002 05:36 PM by Misha    
Now, does someone has the address or the info about what Skeletons in the Closet is going to say in the back cover? I think I read that like two months ago, but I'm just wondering...

Oh yeah, and how many pages it is going to have?

Misha

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Posted 10-17-2002 08:32 AM by the Traveler    
When and will there be a "book" that follows up Roswell's final episode "Graduation"?

Posted 10-17-2002 02:53 PM by YettaKaren    
http://www.andymangels.com/rwskeletons/index.html

No idea how many pages.

Posted 10-18-2002 03:17 PM by b r i a n    
I was just about to post that

Posted 10-18-2002 08:26 PM by black widow    
here's hoping they get the characterisations right this time ...

thanks for the info!

Posted 10-18-2002 10:02 PM by PrometheusUFO    
SimonSays.com has updated again.

"Skeletons In The Closet" page: http://www.simonsays.com/book/default_book.cfm?isbn=0689854463&areaid=33

There's no excerpt yet though...

Also, the next book after Laura Burns' "Quarantine" is now listed, but there's not much info as of yet:

ROSWELL #5 (TEEN): UNTITLED
By Traditional
Simon Pulse, May 2003, ( $5.99 )
Mass Market Paperback, ISBN: 0-689-85520-6
JUVENILE FICTION/Movie Or Television Tie-In

Posted 10-19-2002 09:48 AM by shapeshifter    
quote:
Originally posted by black widow:
here's hoping they get the characterisations right this time ...
It will be really interesting to see what Laura Burns does with Kyle & Valenti in her new book (since she originally created them as evil villains in the original book series).

Posted 10-19-2002 10:07 AM by black widow    
good point! although, i was kind of joking, because if anyone can get the characterizations right, it's laura burns--she came up with the whole idea for 'roswell' in the first place, after all!

Posted 10-19-2002 12:06 PM by greenjetta    
OK so is Skeletons in the Closet the next book after Shades? or is there something else? What is the order of the books after Shades?

Posted 10-19-2002 01:10 PM by black widow    
yes, i believe it is the next book in the 'series', although that's the wrong choice of words, really, as i believe they are all stand-alone books (at least, so far) and you can read them independently of one another.

MEET ROBYN BURNETT at the CRASH INTO ME book launch -- SATURDAY, OCTOBER 26 in TORONTO!

It's confirmed!!! Meet Crash Into Me: The World of Roswell author Robyn Burnett at an exclusive book launch event in Toronto next Saturday, October 26!

WHAT:
CRASH INTO ME: THE WORLD OF ROSWELL by Robyn Burnett, book launch and signing

WHEN:
SATURDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2002
2-4 p.m.

WHERE:
THE SCI-FI CAFE & BOOKSTORE, TORONTO (Thornhill)
1600 Steeles Avenue West
Thornhill, ONT
905.761.7270
(Located just west of Steeles Avenue & Dufferin Street, on the North side. Parking available.)

Driving Directions: Take the 401 to the Dufferin St. exit. Go NORTH until Steeles Avenue. Turn LEFT (WEST) approximately 2 blocks. Turn into the small plaza with a Tim Horton's on the RIGHT. The Sci Fi Cafe is located behind the Tim Horton's, on the right side of the plaza.

Public Transit: Take the TTC subway to Spadina Station. From Spadina, take the 117 Alness N bus up Dufferin Street to Steeles Avenue. Get off at Steeles Avenue and walk 2 blocks WEST. Turn into the small plaza with a Tim Horton's on the RIGHT. The Sci Fi Cafe is located behind the Tim Horton's, on the right side of the plaza.


Copies of Crash Into Me will be available for sale at a cost of $19.95 Canadian, and Robyn will be available to sign books and answer questions all afternoon!

We hope to see as many people turn out for this event as possible ... if you're in the Ontario, Quebec, upstate New York or Michigan area, we'd love to see you!

We are working on a way for those who are unable to attend to receive signed copies of the book -- further details will be available at a later date.

For any questions about the book launch, please contact blackwidow@fanforum.com

Hope to see local Roswellians there!

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Posted 10-19-2002 01:28 PM by JoeySPotter    
I'm so there, Fionna.

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Posted 10-19-2002 09:25 PM by b r i a n    
Thanks for the info! Now if only I can magically get a car and drive to Canada

Posted 10-20-2002 11:14 AM by Writergal    
Sorry for the short notice regarding the book launch. Thanks, Fi, for posting the details
I look forward to meeting those of you who can make it.

Robyn

Posted 10-20-2002 03:53 PM by black widow    
no problem! and thank YOU, robyn, for undertaking the mammoth task of writing this book in the first place! i know it's going to be great!!

see you all on saturday!

Posted 10-21-2002 02:31 PM by Misha    
RoswellianHybrid, you need a car? I need an airplane

Ok, for anyone who has Shades, the titles to come up are around the first pages. It is supose to be Skeletons in the Closet, Dreamwalking and Quarentine, if I remember right...

Thanks for the links to the info about Skeletons in the Closet I have read them long ago, and that totally refeshed my mind. Now, why does Tess have to be in the cover??? sighs...

Misha

Posted 10-21-2002 05:40 PM by black widow    
quote:
Originally posted by Misha:
RoswellianHybrid, you need a car? I need an airplane

aww! it's a shame everyone lives so far away!

i think you are right about the names of the upcoming books. according to the old thread, they are to be released in november 2002, january 2003 and march 2003, in that order, of course. yay!

Posted 10-24-2002 07:38 PM by greenjetta    
Is Skeletons a good read? Anyone get this one yet? I want to know if it's going to be worth ordering?

Posted 10-24-2002 10:23 PM by black widow    
i don't think it comes out until november?

Posted 10-25-2002 05:55 AM by PrometheusUFO    
Well, my order of Skeletons in the Closet at bn.com shipped yesterday.

Posted 10-25-2002 08:10 AM by b r i a n    
Yup. I went to Border and it said you can buy it. Does anyone know for sure if it's out yet, because if it is, I'm going to the book store to get it

Posted 10-25-2002 02:46 PM by Misha    
Well, I thought Skeletons in the Closet was due for Oct. 15th. It should be out there by now

But don't trust this, I don't live in the US...

Misha

Posted 10-25-2002 06:22 PM by greenjetta    
I was told by the sales girl in my local Barnes & Noble that "Skeletons" came out on October 15 and that "Dreamwalker" and "Quarantine" were due out December 13 and January 14 respectively. I'll have to order them because my local Barnes & Noble doesn't stock them

Posted 10-25-2002 06:56 PM by shapeshifter    
So is Mel Odom, the author of Shades, on schedule to write another Roswell book? Because on page 104 he writes:
quote:
Once I get this thing done," River Dog said, "and I get my people settled in and protected again, I'll be glad to help you look [for Max's son]."

Posted 10-25-2002 09:44 PM by black widow    
oh god, i hope not ...

maybe i'm thinking that the new book comes out in *canada* in november. i was at indigo today (our version of barnes & noble), and they didn't have it at all.

but one roswell book that i DO know is out at the moment is crash into you -- the launch event is tomorrow, in toronto! hope to see some local roswell people there!

Posted 10-26-2002 07:16 AM by YettaKaren    
quote:
Originally posted by PrometheusUFO:
Well, my order of Skeletons in the Closet at bn.com shipped yesterday.

I ordered from bn.com, too, and no word yet! I'm ticked, I ordered the next Diana Gabaldon book I have to read along with it, and am now anxiously awaiting the both of them. I'm close to cancelling my order and just going to Barnes and Noble today to at least get the Gabaldon book.

Maybe they're delaying my order because of the same-day shipping in Manhattan? So maybe it'll arrive the same day as yours? I dunno. I'm ready for some good readin', though.

Is Crash Into Me available in stores in the US yet?

Everybody have fun in Toronto today.

Posted 10-26-2002 07:28 AM by Writergal    
You know, that is a good question. I'll ask somebody today!
Sorry you can't make the book launch.

Posted 10-26-2002 11:43 AM by YettaKaren    
quote:
Originally posted by Writergal:
You know, that is a good question. I'll ask somebody today!
Sorry you can't make the book launch.

Thanks! Let us know! And good luck with your launching. Yeah, travel between Manhattan and Toronto isn't so easy when you don't have a car (see above re: living in Manhattan). Plus I've got company coming tonight. definitely looking forward to reading Crash Into Me, though.

Too bad it's not available through Barnes and Noble yet - I'm trying to come up with another book to order from them right now to get free shipping on another purchase.

Posted 10-26-2002 11:44 AM by YettaKaren    
Oops! Double post.

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Posted 10-26-2002 04:38 PM by PrometheusUFO    
bn.com already has a cover image for Dreamwalk, out Dec 17th:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=6PZVCSTU6U&vcqty=0&isbn=0689855184

Posted 10-26-2002 05:12 PM by Writergal    
I may be repeating myself, but I wanted to say THANK YOU to those of you who made it out to the launch. Crash Into Me has been sent out to the US and should be there for next week (as in the beginning of November). I hope you all enjoy it an am looking forward to hearing what you have to say!

Robyn

Posted 10-26-2002 06:32 PM by shapeshifter    
WriterGal, I am just going to find it sooo difficult to refrain from ordering Crash Into Me for myself so my family will have something to get me for Christmas/Hanukka!

Posted 10-26-2002 11:03 PM by black widow    
cool cover of dreamwalk -- thanks for posting that! i hope kyle being on the cover means he has a bit of an actual storylin in this one!

robyn, i may be repeating *myself* but i wanted to extend a huge thank you to YOU on behalf of all the fans for undertaking this wonderful, emotional and mammoth (!) project! the book is fantastic, and i think fans are really going to enjoy it -- you've outdone yourself with the attention to details and all the little extras. it's a great read! thanks again for everything today -- i hope you had as much fun as we did!

Posted 10-27-2002 07:04 AM by YettaKaren    
Okay, bn.com is now saying my order will be shipped by Wednesday. I think I can hold out that long.

Now to work on Crash Into Me, which Barnes and Noble is still saying they won't be stocking. Hmmm. Anybody (uh, Robyn? ) know about this? Perhaps the website is misinformed, or perhaps us New Yorkers will have to go somewhere else to get the book .

Posted 10-27-2002 12:12 PM by b r i a n    
Yup, I went to B&N today and they didn't have Crash Into Me, or Skeletons in the Closet *Sigh* Btw, YettaKaren, I, the reason why they don't have is because it isn't even shipped to the US yet. It's out in Canada though Hope that helps.

Posted 10-27-2002 01:58 PM by shapeshifter    
Crash Into Me is available now from amazon.co.uk (the UK branch of Amazon) and ships in "3-5 weeks."
Hmmmm...I think I'll wait a few weeks and see if it's available in the US--I bet I'll save on shipping if I do.

Posted 10-27-2002 03:17 PM by black widow    
if anyone is interested, there are photos from the book launch yesterday up on the book launch thread -- check them out!

Posted 10-28-2002 01:09 PM by Writergal    
quote:
Now to work on Crash Into Me, which Barnes and Noble is still saying they won't be stocking. Hmmm. Anybody (uh, Robyn? ) know about this? Perhaps the website is misinformed, or perhaps us New Yorkers will have to go somewhere else to get the book

My editor told me that it would be at barnes and noble, so I'm not sure why they said they would not be stocking it. It's on their web site: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=186HURRW7E&isbn=1550225391

I know Chapters will have it.
It was only just sent out this week, so by next week it should be there.
I'll keep asking, though! Hope that helps.

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Posted 10-28-2002 01:12 PM by YettaKaren    
Cool, thanks, Robyn!

Bn.com is saying my copy of Skeletons in the Closet was shipped today. Can't wait to read that one, for personal reasons. Anyway, it should be here in the next three hours. Love Manhattan!

I'll keep an eye out for Crash Into Me. The website still directs you to other suppliers.

Posted 10-28-2002 01:41 PM by *dreamer*    
Can someone please give me the titles of the books that are out and coming out in order. I was a little confused on the series, etc.

Thanks.

Posted 10-28-2002 03:22 PM by YettaKaren    
Skeletons in the Closet is here!

I just skimmed through out of eagerness to see how they handle the backstory, and saw a lot of good, consistent details. It looks like the authors did their research. I saw references to Valenti's family history, Nasedo, even specifically Michael's alibis for the murders he's suspected of. Can't wait to sit down and read the book.

Maybe I should go do that now.

Posted 10-28-2002 06:54 PM by YettaKaren    
Follow-up...

Spoilers ahead for Skeletons in the Closet...


So overall, it's a definite improvement on the other books. It's short, but the plots are interesting, the characters are more or less on target, and it's definitely consistent with the mythology of the show.

Likes: I liked the way they handled the discovery of Hank's body (and FYI, I wrote a fanfic with the same topic and a similar title, hence my apprehensions concerning this book, but I'm pretty satisfied it was coincidence on both sides. Though we did make some of the same choices surrounding the situation, overall it went in a different direction. Made it a much more fun read for me...)

There's some particularly interesting bits that have never been addressed in Roswell "canon", including a scene with the four human DNA donors during their original abduction, from Charles DuPree's perspective. Max also has a dream flashing back to Antar. They also attempt to add some new backstory, fleshing out Michael's history a little towards the end.

Most CC shippers will get their dues here - there's even a little Untuckable action, much to Maria's distaste. Max and Liz are still slightly on the outs, but slouching towards each other. Michael and Maria are fairly well done here (and this is coming from a Candy), fighting quite a bit, but in the end they get some very nice moments together. This book definitely has the best Candy moments of any of the TV spin-off books. There's even a hint of In-Crowding, though Isabel and Jesse are starting up their relationship. Actually, there's a little bit of something here for Outsiders, too (which could possibly be a slightly self-referential acknowledgment of Jason and Katie's relationship, but it's not clear.)

Dislikes: I think they cited events from nearly every single episode of Roswell. Really, was it necessary to cram SO MUCH back story in to the book? I think it would just confuse a new reader, and the old ones know most of the S1/2 backstory. Everything's in there. I mean everything. Dupes, Skins, Tess, Nasedo, Destiny Book, Granilith, Gandarium, Grant, Christmas Miracle, Hank, etc, etc. It happened, it's in there. I thought halfway through of just getting out an episode list and seeing how many episodes they DIDN'T cite. But then I thought my time would be much better used writing up a way-too-long review.

A few nitpicks, though the authors' research was clearly in evidence. At one point they (clearly accidentally) refer to the witnesses to the last scene at Hank's trailer as Max and Liz - in the very next paragraph they indicate correctly that it was Max and Isabel, so I assume it was a typo. Also, a very minor nitpick, they talk about Kyle lettering in cross country, wrestling and football. Basketball, anyone? Eh, nitpicks. They're fun. Really, there's less to nitpick in this one than in the other books. Oh, I thought Jesse and Michael's strained relationship here worked character-wise, but didn't seem to reflect what we saw on the show between them "later" on, when they were indifferent strangers.

In one scene, Max and Liz are in her bedroom and start listening to "Here With Me", complete with lyrics. I found that annoyingly self-knowing. I always hate that kind of stuff in fanfic. I literally had to skip over that.

Overall, by the standards of the other books, I'd definitely put this one at the top of the list, marked down only for its short length. Anyone who's interested in picking up one of these anyway, and granted none of them are particularly masterpieces, but this is a good one to check out as a light read.


End spoilers for Skeletons in the closet.

Posted 10-28-2002 08:00 PM by black widow    
yettakaren, you're awesome!! thank you so much for the spoilers (i'm a spoiler ho, ) -- this definitely sounds like the best book yet, and i can't wait to read it. personally, i love it when they cram in as much of the TV stuff as possible, it makes the connection between the books and the program seem that much stronger to me. and i love all the shippery stuff, too! so thanks!

quote:
Originally posted by *dreamer*:
Can someone please give me the titles of the books that are out and coming out in order. I was a little confused on the series, etc.
Thanks.

sure thing! i'll do my best, but anyone else feel free to jump in and correct me if i mess up.

1. loose ends -- already out.
2. no good deed -- already out.
3. little green men -- already out.
4. shades -- already out.
5. skeletons in the closet -- apparently it's out just recently, as yettakaren already has a copy! but if you don't see it on bookstore shelves right now, it should be there soon. it was technically scheduled to be released in november, 2002
6. dreamwalk -- tentatively set to be released december 2002 or january 2003
7. quarantine -- tentatively set to be released in march 2003

that's all i've got! and then there are the 10 roswell high books by melinda metz, which are totally separare from both these other books and the TV show; they pretty much exist in an entirely alternate universe, but still feature the same characters.

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Posted 10-29-2002 10:13 AM by =(\/) /\ [)=    
Karen, thanks! You rock. Definitely will be picking that up soon!

Posted 10-29-2002 11:20 AM by Misha    
Ok, I know it's not my favorite at all, but you missed Loose Ends That was the first TV Roswell book out there.

Thanks again for people posting "spoilers" ahead of them, I'm a spoiler free (God, how good it feels to say that, even if Roswell is no more!) and I really apreciate that!!

Now, when exactly are those dates? December and January, or January and March??

Misha

Posted 10-29-2002 11:26 AM by *dreamer*    
Thanks Black Widow, that helped alot.

Posted 10-29-2002 12:51 PM by PrometheusUFO    
I just got my copy of Skeletons in the Closet today! Here's the inside front cover excerpt:

quote:
"So they sent the king after me to get me to my job flipping burgers?"

"Micheal, what's going on? You're late for you shift at the Crashdown."

"Laurie Dupree just sent me this scrapbook. It's more notes from Laurie's grandfather about his abduction by aliens in nineteen forty-six--a whole series of abductions actually."

Max's brow furrowed as he concentrated for a moment. "Nineteen forty-six? That's a year before our ship crashed."

"You got it." Micheal said. "I bet it was during these abductions that the samples of his DNA were taken and used to... make me. But it wasn't only Dupree's DNA they took. He wrote about seeing others aboard the alien ship, including a little girl and a young newlywed couple. That means that..." Micheal gestured toward Max.

"The other templates." Max stared at Micheal in wonder. Max's human genetic makeup--as well as that of Isabel and Tess--had been taken from other humans, just as Micheal's had. But they'd found no clue as to the identities of their human "donors."

"If we can find out who the other three templates are, we might find answers to a whole lot of other questions," Max said, his eyes wide.

"Or we can have an alien and abductee family reunion."


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Posted 10-29-2002 01:41 PM by greenjetta    
I was told by the woman at Barnes and Nobel that Dreamwalk was to be released on December 13 and Quarantine for January or February, she wasn't sure which. Thanks for the Skeletons spoilers, I just ordered that one yesterday, can't wait to read it.

Posted 10-29-2002 04:07 PM by YettaKaren    
quote:
Originally posted by black widow:
yettakaren, you're awesome!! thank you so much for the spoilers (i'm a spoiler ho, ) -- this definitely sounds like the best book yet, and i can't wait to read it. personally, i love it when they cram in as much of the TV stuff as possible, it makes the connection between the books and the program seem that much stronger to me. and i love all the shippery stuff, too! so thanks!

You're welcome!

Misha - no problem about the spoilers. Wish we could do what the folks over at the Buffy Bronze board do - they actually have a black font, and you have to highlight it to see the spoilers. Anyway, hope you enjoy the book when you finally get it.

Posted 10-29-2002 07:29 PM by black widow    
quote:
Originally posted by Misha:
Ok, I know it's not my favorite at all, but you missed Loose Ends That was the first TV Roswell book out there.

oops! right you are, i forgot that one! i'll edit it back into my list -- thanks!

*dreamer* -- you're welcome!

prometheusUFO -- i'm so psyched about this particular plot point (mentioned on the inside cover), because it was always something left dangling by the TV series and yet something i always really wanted to know. so i'm glad it's finally being addressed!

yettakaren -- yes, a black font would be way cool! only trouble is, we have boards that are purple and blue and white and ... well, you get the idea! but yeah, it sure would make avoiding spoilers easier for those very strong-willed souls who want to do it!

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Posted 10-29-2002 07:41 PM by PrometheusUFO    
quote:
Originally posted by black widow:
yettakaren -- yes, a black font would be way cool! only trouble is, we have boards that are purple and blue and white and ... well, you get the idea! but yeah, it sure would make avoiding spoilers easier for those very strong-willed souls who want to do it!

Over at the DVDFile forum I go to, they have a way to blackout spoilers by making the background behind the text black to hide the black text. I haven't learned how to do it myself yet though.

Edit: Sorry for going off-topic but here's an actual thread with the "[spoiler] [/spoiler]" code: http://www.dvdfile.com/interactive/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24195

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Posted 10-30-2002 07:54 PM by PrometheusUFO    
I noticed today while reading Skeletons that the "excerpt" I posted previously isn't one at at all. Not exactly anyway. They edited it slightly. In the book, the abductions take place in 1947, not 1946.

Posted 10-30-2002 09:50 PM by black widow    
no worries about the OT -- i wish we could do that spoiler text on FF -- sure would make things a lot easier!

i can't wait to read skeletons in the closet! i have a feeling i'm going to like it best of all the books so far.

Posted 10-31-2002 06:14 AM by Dreambehr    
Actually I prefer the original book series. The new ones seem really complicated.

Posted 10-31-2002 07:02 PM by b r i a n    
I just got Crash Into Me and Skeletons in the Closet. Knowing me, it'll take me forever to read them since I'm currently reading a bunch of other books right now, but I've skimmed through Crash Into Me, and it is awesome. My only complaint?

I wish Robyn listed Colin under the Main Cast thing, not supporting cast.

Posted 11-01-2002 06:13 PM by shapeshifter    
quote:
Originally posted by Eidolon14:
...I wish Robyn listed Colin under the Main Cast thing, not supporting cast.
I'm guessing that was his "official" title?

Posted 11-01-2002 08:06 PM by Got Candy?    
Just a few days ago I finally picked up one of the new books, "Shades" and hope to start reading soon. I still haven't been able to find the rest of the new ones.

Posted 11-02-2002 05:39 AM by nightshadow    
quote:
Originally posted by black widow:

i can't wait to read skeletons in the closet! i have a feeling i'm going to like it best of all the books so far.



I hope you are right. Given the history of the last few the book writers appear not to want to write anything the tv writers need to be held to. The preview page would suggest that M/I/T will find out about their doners but will it really happen. It is also hard to imagine Max sitting wide eyed considering how little emotion he was showing during that time frame.

Posted 11-02-2002 12:18 PM by greenjetta    
I thought Shades was pretty good. I hadn't read the Roswell series in a while, so picking up with Shades was good. You didn't have to read the previous books to understand what was going on. I hate that I have to order the books, it takes so long for them to come. My local Barnes and Noble doesn't carry any of the Roswell, or the Charmed books. They only carry Star Trek and Buffy books. I guess there isn't a demand for Roswell in my area I hope Skeletons is good. Is there a synopsis for Dreamwalk yet?

Posted 11-02-2002 01:27 PM by shapeshifter    
greenjetta,
If you ask the people that work at the book store, they should be HAPPY (even delerious) to order the books for you. Often they'll order 2 copies figuring that someone else might want it too.

Posted 11-02-2002 02:59 PM by Shilohaura    
I ordered both Skeletons & Crash from Amazon through FF quite a while ago and both are still listed as "Not Shipped" in my account there!!! I can't find a "Contact Us" link to ask about them. Anybody know how I contact Amazon???

Posted 11-02-2002 06:29 PM by shapeshifter    
Shilo, It looks like at amazon.com you can click on "Your Account" and then click the "go" button next to "Open and recently shipped orders." There's also a "Cancel items or orders." It looks like you have to have your order number to use their contact form ("email us").
I know if you go to place an order and choose to pay by check, there's a number to call.
It looks like at bn.com you click on "Account" right under "your cart" in the upper right.

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Posted 11-02-2002 07:31 PM by greenjetta    
Believe it or not, I've asked the salespeople if they could order the books for me, but they've always given me an excuse for why they couldn't. One time the guy told me that he needed at least 10 people to request it before he could order it What a pathetic excuse!

Posted 11-02-2002 09:21 PM by shapeshifter    
greenjetta, I'm surprised if it was a B&N, because both the B&N's in Sacramento, Cali and in Vernon Hills, IL fell all over themselves ordering anything I wanted. But both were pretty big stores. I used to live in a small, rural area, and I know sometimes it's different when you're in a remote area. I remember the Sears catalog store wouldn't even pay shipping to return damaged goods. At least now we can order stuff online.

Posted 11-02-2002 09:33 PM by the Traveler    
2 questions!

1. Will there be any post-Graduation books "continuing" the series like the Star Trek Deep Space Nine & Star Trek Voyager "relaunch" novels?

2. Can some one PLEASE give a brief summary of "Crash Into Me" without all the borring detail, so I can decide wether or not to get it! Amazon.com isn't very informative...

Posted 11-03-2002 06:22 AM by Shilohaura    
Shapeshifter - thanks for your help with the Amazon thing! Right after I posted that, I got an email notice from Amazon that they've shipped Skeletons, so I'm hoping that Crash is coming soon. I think they were overwhelmed with pre-sales and didn't have enough for all who ordered the first time through! I'd love it if the media reviewed this book - wouldn't that be great?????

Posted 11-03-2002 07:19 AM by YettaKaren    
quote:
Originally posted by greenjetta:
I thought Shades was pretty good. I hadn't read the Roswell series in a while, so picking up with Shades was good. You didn't have to read the previous books to understand what was going on. I hate that I have to order the books, it takes so long for them to come. My local Barnes and Noble doesn't carry any of the Roswell, or the Charmed books. They only carry Star Trek and Buffy books. I guess there isn't a demand for Roswell in my area I hope Skeletons is good. Is there a synopsis for Dreamwalk yet?

Barnes and Noble? Really? Have you checked Teen Series, Film/TV/Radio and Sci-Fi? I've found the books shelved under all three of those, depending on which store you're in. Usually Teen Series, but even then they'll have the Metz series separate from the TV Tie-in books...

Posted 11-03-2002 10:42 AM by PrometheusUFO    
I only have 4 more chapters left to read of Skeletons, and I really think this has got to be the best of the TV tie-in books released so far!

It seems to take place during the summer, pre-season 3, and most likely after Shades. I really like the backgrounds the authors gave, which explain the characters and events more in-depth than the previous books or even the series did before.

Posted 11-03-2002 12:45 PM by shapeshifter    
quote:
Originally posted by YettaKaren:
...Have you checked Teen Series, Film/TV/Radio and Sci-Fi? I've found the books shelved under all three of those, depending on which store you're in. Usually Teen Series, but even then they'll have the Metz series separate from the TV Tie-in books...
I find it ironic that the later, "tie-in" books are usually in the sci-fi section (which one would assume is for adults) even though they have about zero sensuality, while the Metz books, which have a lot of sensuality, are in the Teen section.

Posted 11-03-2002 02:35 PM by fehrian 02    
Shades was disappointing, or rather IS disappointing to me. I think it has a stupid storyline. I am still reading the book, struggling to get done with it. I actually don't even want to read it. And also, I wish the books would have more about Michael and Maria the way Roswell High did. And Roswell High had the wonderful make-out scenes, too!! Shades just didn't interest me. I don't even know if I'll finish it. But, hey, I'm looking forward to the next one.

Posted 11-03-2002 03:37 PM by black widow    
well, you guys already know my thoughts on shades. but i'm really looking forward to skeletons in the closet -- it sounds like it will be right up my alley!

that's an interesting point you make, prometheus ufo, about the lack of sensuality in the tv-tie-ins, and the presence of it in the metz books. i totally agree. the tv tie in series seem more targeted at a junior audience in some ways. they're almost clinical and pre-teen in the description of the characters' relationships with each other, glossing over any and all physical descriptions, whereas melinda's books explored this in so much more detail. i don't know why this is, exactly ... maybe because melinda wrote all 10 of the 'roswell high' books, she was more attached to the characters (after all, she helped create them in the first place!) and had more time to flesh out the relationships and so on. the authors of the various tv-tie-in books don't have that luxury as much because each is only writing one book. maybe they don't have the same emotional attachment to the characters that melinda does? they certainly don't do their research in some cases (i remember reading shades and wondering if the author had even WATCHED the show?). but as someone who is, er, many years removed from her 'teen' years, i definitely feel like i'm reading stories meant for a more teen audience with the tv-tie-ins than the metz books!

quote:
Originally posted by the Traveler:
2 questions!

1. Will there be any post-Graduation books "continuing" the series like the Star Trek Deep Space Nine & Star Trek Voyager "relaunch" novels?


i don't think any of us know that. i know there are 8 books currently under contract, i think 5 have been released and we have details for 2 more ... but no one seems to know if anything is ever going to take place post season 3. which is a shame, as i bet there would be a lot of really interesting stories to tell.

quote:

2. Can some one PLEASE give a brief summary of "Crash Into Me" without all the borring detail, so I can decide wether or not to get it! Amazon.com isn't very informative...

well, i'm a little puzzled by what you would consider 'boring details', but perhaps
this news article from crashdown might help you a bit. although, i should probably let the book's author answer this one for herself -- we're very lucky to have her posting here!

Posted 11-03-2002 08:17 PM by b r i a n    
I enjoyed the book thorougly. It was great to see Fan Forum listed in an actual book. Makes me feel even more proud than I was to be part of this awesome community.

Posted 11-04-2002 07:05 AM by Writergal    
quote:
Originally posted by Eidolon14:
I just got Crash Into Me and Skeletons in the Closet. Crash Into Me, and it is awesome. My only complaint?
I wish Robyn listed Colin under the Main Cast thing, not supporting cast.

I'm glad you're enjoying the book! As for Colin, I know what you mean. I also wanted to list Bill and Nick as full cast but that would make too many long bios and I wasn't really in the position to do that. So, unfortunately Colin had to be in the supporting cast category. Still, very IMPORTANT supporting cast.

Posted 11-04-2002 07:08 AM by Writergal    
quote:
Originally posted by the Traveler:

2. Can some one PLEASE give a brief summary of "Crash Into Me" without all the borring detail, so I can decide wether or not to get it! Amazon.com isn't very informative...

Okay, there's a chapter on the Roswell Incident (based on the interviews of the witnesses), bios on all the cast (different from the bios in the Meet the Stars of Roswell book), a long chapter on the Roswell fans, the campaign crew, saving the show, starting the show etc. There are a couple of fun chapters (quiz, jokes) and finally a full episode guide with commentary and cool facts (different from the other Roswell guide and up to date).
Does that help?

Posted 11-04-2002 03:39 PM by shapeshifter    
quote:
Originally posted by Writergal:
    Originally posted by the Traveler:
    Can some one PLEASE give a brief summary of "Crash Into Me" without all the borring detail, so I can decide wether or not to get it! Amazon.com isn't very informative...
Okay, there's a chapter on the Roswell Incident (based on the interviews of the witnesses), bios on all the cast (different from the bios in the Meet the Stars of Roswell book), a long chapter on the Roswell fans, the campaign crew, saving the show, starting the show etc. There are a couple of fun chapters (quiz, jokes) and finally a full episode guide with commentary and cool facts (different from the other Roswell guide and up to date).
Does that help?

Thanks, Robyn!

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Posted 11-04-2002 04:32 PM by Angel_Demoness    
quote:
Originally posted by Lizwell:
What's the date on the Crash Into Me book some time in oct right?

Yep, crash into me just came out!

Posted 11-04-2002 05:10 PM by b r i a n    
Yes. Nick and Bill are both great.

Posted 11-04-2002 06:57 PM by greenjetta    
YettaKaren, Shapeshifter, I've been through the entire store to find the Roswell books. For some reason my local Barnes and Noble doesn't carry them It's not like I live in a rural, out of the way area. I live in Westchester County New York, which is about 45-60 minutes north of New York City. It's a big county with a lot of people. We've practically got wall-to-wall shopping centers. Heck, I even tried our local Wal-Mart for the books, since they also sell young-adult, sci-fi tie-in books like that. I've had to order the last three books from the Barnes website because I can't find them. I think when Dreamwalk comes out, I'll insist that they order it for me.

Posted 11-04-2002 07:52 PM by the Traveler    
THANKS WRITERGAL!!!!!

Posted 11-06-2002 07:23 PM by b r i a n    

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Posted 11-06-2002 09:20 PM by black widow    
no, i'm not sure that would be a good idea to do without his permission. yes, he did consent to the photo in the book, but that's only available to people who make a point of buying it. putting his (or anyone's) photo on a website without their consent is probably not a good idea. i'll e-mail him and ask, but i'm almost certain he'd want to know why someone wants his photo online in the first place?

Posted 11-07-2002 07:09 PM by b r i a n    
Forget about it. It's hard to explain.

Posted 11-07-2002 07:13 PM by *Cinnamon*    
Seeing as this is partially my fault, I should explain what had happened - a few of us were pondering what GB looked like because someone had mentioned something in passing about the FF Party. So I wanted to know. And he said he knew.

But I didn't expect him to seriously ask anyone about it. So, if you think he's strange, I'm the strange one here.

I still can't believe you asked that, Bri. I'm never going to let you live this down.

Posted 11-07-2002 07:15 PM by b r i a n    
Don't worry. GB probably thinks I'm a stalker now. You won't have to do anything to make me feel bad

Posted 11-07-2002 09:01 PM by PrometheusUFO    
RoswellStore.com now has Crash Into Me in stock with a price of $17.95 + shipping. I might just buy it there since everywhere else I've seen has low availability.

Edit: Buy.com has it for $11.30 + free shipping (but it does take a little longer to recieve it). But of course they're on back order too.

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Posted 11-07-2002 09:45 PM by xVMoonStarVx    
I am almost finished with "Skeletons in the Closet" and so far this IS the best book. The authors Andy Mangels and Michael A. Martin did a wonderful job getting the characters right, and I;m not a huge fan of Max and Liz, but the pages 74 and 75 are completly funny and adorable.

I am impressed at the back tracking and filling in where some plot line fell off, so far again I am really into this book, read it, you will not regret it...

Kat

Posted 11-08-2002 03:30 PM by greenjetta    
Someone on another message board told me that they didn't like "Crash Into Me" because of the "endless" mentions of the actors' personal lives and the backstage relationships, especially the infamous one that supposedly ruined and got the show cancelled(that's another conversation for another time, on another thread please!)Can someone who has this book please tell me what this person was babbeling about? Are there really endless mentions of that stuff? I just can't imagine the authors going into that in the book. I mean it's not a tell all, behind the scenes kind of book right?

Posted 11-08-2002 03:54 PM by Thicket    
Don't know, greenjetta. Still waiting for my copy.

On that note, to anyone who ordered CIM through Amazon, here's the reply I got from them after asking about the delay:

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Cool, huh?

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Posted 11-08-2002 03:56 PM by b r i a n    
Cool for you and Robyn

Posted 11-08-2002 05:50 PM by Writergal    
quote:
Originally posted by greenjetta:
Someone on another message board told me that they didn't like "Crash Into Me" because of the "endless" mentions of the actors' personal lives and the backstage relationships, especially the infamous one that supposedly ruined and got the show cancelled(that's another conversation for another time, on another thread please!)Can someone who has this book please tell me what this person was babbeling about? Are there really endless mentions of that stuff? I just can't imagine the authors going into that in the book. I mean it's not a tell all, behind the scenes kind of book right?

Well, greenjetta, I'm not sure what the other individual was referring to, because I'm not even sure what you mean by the "infamous one that ruined the show" unless you're talking about Jason and Katie. I mentioned that they were dating in Jason's and Katie's bio. I also mentioned Brendan and Majandra's relationship in their bios, but I certainly didn't spend pages going on about either one. It is not a "tell all/behind the scenes" book. Each actor has a bio, and there is a chapter on the Roswell history but it delves into the fans rather than the backstage stuff. I hope that helps. Granted, I may be biased (hey, I wrote the thing!)

I'll say this much, it's no tell-all Kitty Kelly style biography book.
I'd be interested to read the thread that you got the info from. Feedback is always cool.

Posted 11-08-2002 06:31 PM by b r i a n    
I do remember reading something about Jason/Shiri's chemistry being good in season one, but it wasn't even a full line and plus, you mentioned nothing about ruining the show.

Posted 11-08-2002 07:34 PM by black widow    
i don't thnk you're biased at all robyn--i think that's a fair assessment. not only have i read crash into me, i helped a little in the copy-editing process too, and i totally back up every word robyn has said.

this is definitely not a book you'd read excerpts of in the weekly world news! it's a well-written, balanced, professional and non-gossipmongery (is that even a word? ) story about roswell. there is nothing anywhere in the book that could even remotely be construed as accusatory or inflammatory, in fact, robyn went to great pains to avoid that! so you're right, greenjetta, it's definitely NOT a tell-all expose, not in the slightest. i thought it was a great read, and a lovely piece of nostalgia from the past three years.

Posted 11-08-2002 08:35 PM by greenjetta    
Thank you Robyn! I ordered the book but haven't received it yet. I can't remember which website it was, I visit so many. If I can remember,I'll let you know. I didn't think it was a 'tell-all', tabloid type book. I don't think I'd want to read a 'tell-all' on Roswell anyway, it would ruin the whole experience for me I've read so many positive, great things about the book, I can't wait to read it. Congrats on the success of the book!

Posted 11-09-2002 06:25 AM by Writergal    
Hey, no problem! I look forward to your feedback! And thanks, blackwidow, for that lovely description of the book!

Posted 11-09-2002 10:38 AM by the Traveler    
Could some one sum up the book in a few sentences?

Basically how many chapters deal with Roswell, the deal with the fans, bios, just kinda give me an idea of how much of each section is in the book! And how much? THANKS

Posted 11-09-2002 05:59 PM by RoswellDreamer5    
I just bought "Crash Into Me" from my local barnes and noble. Spent practically all my money on it. Hope it is worth it. It was $19.84 total including tax. 7 of the chapters deal with Roswell and the fans. The first chapter is stories from people about the Roswell Crash of 1947 in Roswell, New Mexico.

-Christy

Posted 11-10-2002 06:19 PM by black widow    
i bought skeletons in the closet yesterday and am about 50 pages into it, and so far, i'm just LOVING it! it borrows very heavily from the canon of the TV show and gets a lot of details and facts and continuity right ... a pleasure to read.

Posted 11-10-2002 07:38 PM by PrometheusUFO    
Not much going on an SimonSays.com lately. April/May 2003's book is still listed as untitled, but there is now a page for Dreamwalk (out in Dec/Jan), but with just a slightly larger version of the cover so far:
http://www.simonsays.com/book/default_book.cfm?isbn=0689855184&areaid=33

"Take a walk on the wild side." Interesting.

Posted 11-10-2002 09:30 PM by xVMoonStarVx    
I just finished reading "Skeletons in the Closet" and was highly impressed, I onlt founnd a few things that was wrong from past episodes of the show, not going to blow it for anyone but those who have read it see who was with Max when they went to Michael's house for the last time not the one who was with him..Hmm..

But I couldnt put it down even the very end was ...well I smiled and I laughed it was a good book, they got the characaters to a tee, I hope the next one "Dreamwalk" wil be as good.

Posted 11-11-2002 05:28 AM by PrometheusUFO    
prometheus, i am such an idiot!! i apologise profusely! i didn't mean to edit your post, i meant to QUOTE it and reply to it (see below). i'm SO sorry! idiot mod am i! i tried to fix it as best i could--i'm so sorry.

quote:
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Originally posted by xVMoonStarVx:
But I couldnt put it down even the very end was ...well I smiled and I laughed it was a good book, they got the characaters to a tee, I hope the next one "Dreamwalk" wil be as good.

Dreamwalk is written by Paul Ruditis, the same guy who wrote the "Roswell Pop Quiz" book so there's a good chance, IMO.

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Posted 11-11-2002 05:37 AM by PrometheusUFO    
I'm hoping atleast one of the upcoming books will take place after season 3 and explain what was with that object Micheal stole from the military base within the final episodes. I think that storyline had to be cut with all the episode-count-cutting UPN did near the end of the season.

Posted 11-11-2002 03:53 PM by shapeshifter    
quote:
Originally posted by PrometheusUFO:
I'm hoping atleast one of the upcoming books will take place after season 3 and explain what was with that object Micheal stole from the military base within the final episodes. I think that storyline had to be cut with all the episode-count-cutting UPN did near the end of the season.
Oh, I thought it was a part from the agitator of a washing machine--an Antarian spaceship washer, that is--got to keep hygenic.

I think it would be especially cool if the book coming out by the original series author takes up where it left off, or where the show left off.

Posted 11-11-2002 04:35 PM by greenjetta    
Are there any synopsis' of Dreamwalk or Quarantine??

Posted 11-11-2002 06:17 PM by black widow    
okay, here's what i MEANT to post originally ...

quote:
originally posted by PrometheusUFO:

Dreamwalk is written by Paul Ruditis, the same guy who wrote the "Roswell Pop Quiz" book so there's a good chance, IMO.


thank you! i knew i knew his name from somewhere, but i couldn't place it!

i'm still really enjoying skeletons in the closet. it's such a joy to read a book that not only has the characterizations down pat, but includes a lot of continuity from the show, too. two thumbs up!

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Posted 11-11-2002 08:02 PM by b r i a n    
I read the beginning part, and I am liking it very much. I haven't read Shades so I can't complain about that yet (dang) but when the time comes, I'm sure I'll have something to say.

Posted 11-11-2002 08:42 PM by Thicket    
I too think it would be great to see some books continuing the story after S3. They'd sell like hot cakes!

Posted 11-12-2002 03:36 PM by Misha    
Anything after S3 would be ohhhhh so wanted!! A friend will send me her copy of Skeletons in the Closet ( Thanks Caroline!!), but your comments are really eating me up.

I personally like the best No Good Deed, so I hope it will knot that book down for all that you are saying

Misha

Posted 11-12-2002 10:45 PM by PrometheusUFO    
quote:
Originally posted by black widow:
[B]prometheus, i am such an idiot!! i apologise profusely! i didn't mean to edit your post, i meant to QUOTE it and reply to it (see below). i'm SO sorry! idiot mod am i! i tried to fix it as best i could--i'm so sorry.[/QB]

No problem.

I just noticed Amazon sent my order of Crash Into Me on monday through UPS. It'll be delivered tomorrow.

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Posted 11-14-2002 04:30 PM by greenjetta    
What about Dreamwalk and Quarantine? Any info or spoilers on these two yet? Are they going to take place after Graduation or before?

Posted 11-14-2002 08:34 PM by black widow    
i have a feeling -- no concrete proof, just my gut -- that all the books are going to be pre-finale, that is, nothing past season 3. don't ask me why ... i just get the sense that there may be something to do with copyright or something along those lines ... but really, who knows? i sure as heck would like spoilers, if anyone has 'em!

Posted 11-14-2002 11:29 PM by PrometheusUFO    
The next book's title is now on SimonSays.com, but still no info on an author yet.

ROSWELL: A NEW BEGINNING
By Traditional
Simon Pulse, May 2003, ( 272 pages, $5.99 )
Mass Market Paperback, ISBN: 0-689-85520-6
JUVENILE FICTION/Movie Or Television Tie-In

Could "A New Beginning" mean post-season 3?

Guess we will have to wait and see.

Posted 11-15-2002 06:40 PM by shapeshifter    
quote:
Originally posted by PrometheusUFO:
[QB]The next book's title is now on SimonSays.com,...
...ROSWELL: A NEW BEGINNING
...
Could "A New Beginning" mean post-season 3...
Wow. No kidding. "New Beginnings" is the title of the first installment of the post-S3 fanfic Roswell The Final Chapter.
I wonder if there'll be any similarities.

Posted 11-16-2002 01:16 AM by xmag    
quote:
Originally posted by PrometheusUFO:
The next book's title is now on SimonSays.com, but still no info on an author yet.

ROSWELL: A NEW BEGINNING
By Traditional
Simon Pulse, May 2003, ( 272 pages, $5.99 )
Mass Market Paperback, ISBN: 0-689-85520-6
JUVENILE FICTION/Movie Or Television Tie-In

Could "A New Beginning" mean post-season 3?

Guess we will have to wait and see.


well, that title is very intriguing, especially when you consider it is the last (the contract was for 8 books), so yes, there is a possibility it is a post Graduation book.
If it is, let's just hope the author will have done his homeworks, watch the 3 seasons, and write ALL the characters the way they are.

Posted 11-16-2002 09:48 PM by black widow    
interesting! thanks for posting that!

now that i'm almost finished skeletons in the closet (loving it!), i think i should revise my earlier statement ... it suddenly struck me that perhaps the very *reason* this book ties up so many of the loose ends and chads leftover from the TV show is because that way, there's some sort of closure and the scene can then be set to develop post season-3 books. sort of like, there aren't any stories left to tell from the first 3 seasons, all the questions have been answered in the books so far, so now we can move past that and start fresh. here's hoping, anyway!

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Posted 11-17-2002 12:55 PM by nightshadow    
Would anyone know who would have control over character direction if the books continue on after Season 3? Would it be Katims/KKB or Fox?

Posted 11-17-2002 02:32 PM by b r i a n    
Roswell- A New Beginning was the name of this S1 rewrite I was writing. Odd.

Posted 11-17-2002 06:37 PM by Lizwell    
A New Beginning can we say I'm EXTATIC at the mere prospect.

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Posted 11-17-2002 08:48 PM by greenjetta    
That's interesting news. I wish we knew more about what the next few books were going to be about. Doesn't Dreamwalk come out soon? I thought Barnes&Noble said something about December 17 or 18, I don't remember now

Posted 11-18-2002 09:18 PM by black widow    
well! i finally found the time to finish skeletons in the closet and let me just say, i LOVED it!!!

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wow. what a great book! it had everything in it, and answered so many of the questions left over from the TV show. i've always wondered about the genetic donors for the other 3 aliens, and this was a terrific way to find out. i also always wondered about hank, if ever that would come back to haunt michael. so it was great to see those two topics addressed.

but best of all, this book had marvellous continuity from the show. scenes with brody ... a mention of milton, and even the dupes ... amy deluca, and her relationship with valenti ... the backstory of how isabel and jesse met ... isabel toying with the idea of dyeing her hair ... alex's ghost ... dan lubetkin (from the hybrid chronicles arc) ... everett hubble ... it was terrific! it really felt like a novelized episode of the show!

i was also very impressed with the characterizations, they were spot-on. best of all, there wasn't ridiculous, gratuitous michael and maria fighting ... you got to see a real glimpse of the depth of their relationship. just wonderful stuff!

highly, highly recommend this one, guys! five stars!

Posted 11-19-2002 06:24 PM by greenjetta    
I got my copy of Crash Into Me today and was skimming through it, it looks like it's going to be a nice read. Maybe I'll have time to read it this week.

Posted 11-21-2002 07:27 AM by greenjetta    
Robyn if you're still around, the book is wonderful. I'm so glad I was able to finally get a copy of it. I was reading it last night and found a few things I never knew before. It was fun to read the cast bios, I really didn't know a lot of those things It was also fun to read the episode descriptions. Great book, I can tell that you put a lot of work into it.

Posted 11-21-2002 08:22 AM by Peter Parker: Spider-Man    
Lets hope the next book is better than Little Green Men , I still can't belive that I bought it

Posted 11-21-2002 05:49 PM by b r i a n    
I like Little Green Men.

Posted 11-21-2002 07:45 PM by greenjetta    
I thought Shades and Skeletons in the Closet were both much better than Little Green Men. Personally I didn't like Little Green Men. I really hope they decide to do some books that take place after Graduation. It would be interesting to see what direction other writers would take the story.

Posted 11-21-2002 09:45 PM by black widow    
i didn't mind little green men. it was fluffy, sure, but cute. the only one i really, really disliked was shades.

Posted 11-22-2002 06:19 AM by Writergal    
quote:
Originally posted by greenjetta:
Robyn if you're still around, the book is wonderful. I'm so glad I was able to finally get a copy of it. I was reading it last night and found a few things I never knew before. It was fun to read the cast bios, I really didn't know a lot of those things It was also fun to read the episode descriptions. Great book, I can tell that you put a lot of work into it.

Yes, I'm still around, and thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it... considering the long and painful wait you went through!

Posted 11-25-2002 05:47 PM by greenjetta    
Is there any new info or spoilers on Roswell: A New Beginning, Dreamwalk, or Quarantine?

Posted 11-25-2002 06:00 PM by the Traveler    
Hello. Since there's no post-"Graduation" novels.

I am thinking of writing my OWN post-"Graduation novels, but just for me, not to publish or anything.

Can some one tell me if they will "eventually" make post-"Graduation" novels?

THANKS

Posted 11-25-2002 08:41 PM by black widow    
i don't know that anyone knows for sure, traveler -- but the title roswell -- a new beginning for one of the novels sure sounds like it, doesn't it?!

Posted 11-25-2002 10:02 PM by the Traveler    
OOOOOO

Where'd ya here THAT???

Posted 11-25-2002 10:44 PM by black widow    
i didn't actually hear it anywhere ... the title for the next book is dreamwalk, then quarantine, then the one after that is called new beginning(s?). some people were wondering if that meant post season 3, that's all!

Posted 11-26-2002 09:40 AM by Peter Parker: Spider-Man    
quote:
Originally posted by greenjetta:
I thought Shades and Skeletons in the Closet were both much better than Little Green Men. Personally I didn't like Little Green Men. I really hope they decide to do some books that take place after Graduation. It would be interesting to see what direction other writers would take the story.

You mean there are More Books other than Loose Ends, No Good Deed, and Little Green Men?

Posted 11-26-2002 10:59 AM by PrometheusUFO    
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Parker: Spider-Man:
You mean there are More Books other than Loose Ends, No Good Deed, and Little Green Men?

Yes. Here's my handy, but rarely used, Roswell book guide, listing every book connected to the Roswell tv series in release order:
http://prometheusrealm.tripod.com/roswell/book.html http://prometheusrealm.tripod.com/roswell/book2.html

Posted 11-26-2002 08:55 PM by Maizli    
Skeletons in the Closet was great. A lot of information but easily followed. ooh, never saw it coming about thier human heritage.

Posted 11-28-2002 09:50 PM by AFLP    
I have like 3 Chapters left to read in Skeletons In The Closet but I've really enjoyed it! It is definately my favorite of all the tie-in novels.

I have to admit Shades wasn't that great only because I found it all very predictable. I think after the first chapter or so it got pretty dull. Just my opinion.

Out of the 3 prior tie-ins? Loose Ends & Little Green Men were alright, nothing thrilling there. No Good Deed was a little better.

I was going to review them, but y'all have done such wonderful jobs already that I've decided not to. But I will rank them.

The more stars there are the more I liked the book.

Loose Ends:
No Good Deed:
Little Green Men:
Shades:
Skeletons In The Closet:

I can't wait for Dreamwalk & Quarantine and of course any books that follow. I hope they're both as enjoyable as Skeletons.. Granted they're easy reading, but I find I usually don't have time to sit down with a Novel. Plus Roswell, what's not to love, eh?

I know this is a silly question, but someone mentioned there are some fun bits in Crash Into Me, like jokes?

Is it possible to share any of those with us? I'm curious. I'm definately going to pick up the book though, everyone I know who's gotten it seems to have enjoyed it.

~Les

Posted 11-28-2002 09:57 PM by AFLP    
quote:
Originally posted by PrometheusUFO:

Yes. Here's my handy, but rarely used, Roswell book guide, listing every book connected to the Roswell tv series in release order:
http://prometheusrealm.tripod.com/roswell/book.html http://prometheusrealm.tripod.com/roswell/book2.html


PrometheusUFO, your book guide is great!

Posted 11-28-2002 10:16 PM by black widow    
robyn doesn't seem to be around, so i hope she doesn't mind me sharing a couple of little jokes from the book with you.

remember way back when on ros1, there was a thread about "why did the chicken cross the road, roswell style"? and from there, the best entries on that thread were turned into a page in the crashdown yearbook? well, robyn took that idea and greatly expanded upon it, with hilarious results! here's a couple of my favourites:

why did the (roswell) chicken cross the road?

DEPUTY HANSON: "Uh ... sheriff? Chicken's crossed the road. We kind of have a situation brewin' here. I was thinking this might be what you call a P-O-U-L-T-R-Y situation."

KAL LANGLEY: "That chicken has always been selfish and ungrateful. I might have genetic encoding that makes me protect it, but I'll never stop hating it!"

MAX EVANS: "Because it has to save its son."

MR. PARKER: "All I can say is, that chicken is a bad influence and it better stay away from my daughter or she's off to boarding school!"

so funny! and there are loads more where those come from!

Posted 11-29-2002 06:38 AM by Writergal    
I'm still around... and of course I don't mind! I'm glad you like them.
My favorite's are:
Billy: It crossed because it was following its dream. If I hadn't met that chicken, I'd still be playing "Stairway to Heaven" in my mom's garage.

or

Nicholas: If only people could see the chicken now... Clueless, groping for its own identity. It's lost that legendary aura.

Posted 11-29-2002 06:40 AM by Writergal    
quote:
Originally posted by AFLP:

PrometheusUFO, your book guide is great!


Ditto!

Posted 11-29-2002 10:00 AM by AFLP    

Those are fantastic! Thanks black widow for posting some of those & thanks Robyn for well, writing the book.

I can't wait to get the book!

Posted 11-30-2002 02:47 PM by Maizli    
I ordered Crash Into Me at Borders. I cannot wait to read it.

Posted 12-01-2002 07:14 PM by b r i a n    
There are going to be post-Graduation books. I was reading the script book for Once More, with Feeling, and on the last page, it was a commercial for the books. I would've bought the book just to type out the exact thing it said about the books, but I didn't.

I am sure it is post-Graduation, because they said it.

Alienation doesn't end after Graduation.

and

The only place where you will find brand new Roswell adventures.

There was a ton more, but I can't remember all of it.

That's my happy dance.

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Posted 12-01-2002 11:24 PM by black widow    
quote:
Originally posted by Writergal:
Nicholas: If only people could see the chicken now... Clueless, groping for its own identity. It's lost that legendary aura.

i love that one too!

b r i a n -- fantastic news!! that's awesome! it'll be nice to have some "new" roswell coming our way!

Posted 12-05-2002 11:20 AM by greenjetta    
I just saw that the website buy.com is pre selling "Dreamwalk" and "Quarantine" for I think it's $4.73 a book.

Posted 12-12-2002 06:28 AM by PrometheusUFO    
SimonSays.com has added a back cover description for Dreamwalk:

quote:
You can run, but you can't hide.

Night after night Kyle is haunted by nightmares of Alex's death. He begs Isabel to help by dreamwalking him and removing the images from his mind. Isabel knows that's not how her powers work, but Kyle is relentless and she finally agrees. The disturbing images she encounters in Kyle's subconscious are almost too much to bear, but when she tries to exit his mind, she finds herself trapped in a maze of guilt -- while back in the conscious world, Kyle is unable to wake her.

Meanwhile Liz invites Max to babysit with her. She wants to give him a chance to train for the day when he finds his own son. But watching this troubled child turns out to be not just another day in the park, and before they know it, Liz and Max are in way over their heads....



http://www.simonsays.com/book/default_book.cfm?isbn=0689855184&areaid=33

"Roswell: A New Beginning" still doesn't have an author listed. But they have added an all-new book!

quote:
ROSWELL: NIGHTSCAPE
By Traditional
Simon Pulse, July 2003, ( 272 pages, $5.99 )
Mass Market Paperback, ISBN: 0-689-85521-4
JUVENILE FICTION/Movie Or Television Tie-In

Posted 12-12-2002 07:24 AM by black widow    
whoo hoo! new book! thanks for the info, prometheus!

does anyone know when dreamwalk is going to be officially released?

Posted 12-12-2002 08:25 AM by PrometheusUFO    
I already ordered Dreamwalk from bn.com since they have a 12/17 release date.

Posted 12-12-2002 02:22 PM by xmag    
quote:
Originally posted by b r i a n:
There are going to be post-Graduation books. I was reading the script book for Once More, with Feeling, and on the last page, it was a commercial for the books. I would've bought the book just to type out the exact thing it said about the books, but I didn't.

I am sure it is post-Graduation, because they said it.

Alienation doesn't end after Graduation.

and

The only place where you will find brand new Roswell adventures.

There was a ton more, but I can't remember all of it.

That's my happy dance.

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Yes, plus "Nightscape", in June 2003 ! even though i am thrilled by this new, it would be hard for me to read a post Graduation novel, since i am litterally "taken, possessed" by the Virtual Season 4 at "roswellthefinalchapter".
Great storylines for every characters, couples, with action, complexity, depth, mysteries, this 4th virtual season is amazing !

And no, i have nothing to do with the persons at the website.

But i think i will give it a try, after all, i loved "skeletons in the closet", but not Shades, or Loose Ends, or No Good deed.
What i regret is, as someone said, there is more sensuality in the Melinda Metz's novels, which were for kids, than in these new novels. Too clinic, while Roswell is about emotions, feelings, love, friendship.

Posted 12-12-2002 11:37 PM by black widow    
thanks again, prometheus! whoo hoo -- not only do we have a new book coming out in a couple of weeks, we have a 'new' book added to the list for next year! awesome!

Posted 12-13-2002 07:08 PM by Maliejandra    
I couldn't get into Shades but right now I'm reading Loose Ends. It's really good and it's cool that the author mentioned Crashdown.com in the thank you... and I love the Clinton quote in the beginning. I'm on #6 of Roswell High and I really like it, although the cover pics with the models instead of the actors disturbs me. I just cannot picture Maria as some boring chick with curly hair or Max as a blonde. Can't do it and they can't make me!

Posted 12-13-2002 11:54 PM by PrometheusUFO    
quote:
Originally posted by Maliejandra:
I'm on #6 of Roswell High and I really like it, although the cover pics with the models instead of the actors disturbs me. I just cannot picture Maria as some boring chick with curly hair or Max as a blonde. Can't do it and they can't make me!

I actually pictured the characters like that at first since I began reading Roswell High when it was first released, about a year before the TV series started. Once the releases got back around to #6, it was a bit difficult at first picturing them differently.

Posted 12-14-2002 06:31 AM by Just Peachy.    
quote:
Originally posted by Maliejandra:
I couldn't get into Shades but right now I'm reading Loose Ends. It's really good and it's cool that the author mentioned Crashdown.com in the thank you... and I love the Clinton quote in the beginning. I'm on #6 of Roswell High and I really like it, although the cover pics with the models instead of the actors disturbs me. I just cannot picture Maria as some boring chick with curly hair or Max as a blonde. Can't do it and they can't make me!

I couldn't get into Shades either.

I've got all of the Roswell High Books but my covers as the Roswell cast on the cover, so its rather strange reading about Max and his blonde shaggy hair and blue eyes with Jason Behr on the cover of the book

Posted 12-14-2002 10:28 AM by BrattyAngel    
I always thought Emilie De Ravin (Tess) looked like the Maria DeLuca from the Melinda Metz books. But then again, maybe that's just me...

Posted 12-14-2002 09:39 PM by shapeshifter    
quote:
Originally posted by BrattyAngel:
I always thought Emilie De Ravin (Tess) looked like the Maria DeLuca from the Melinda Metz books. But then again, maybe that's just me...
I don't think anyone ever mentioned that before on the Compare & Contrast threads, but you're right!

Compare The Show And The Books
Compare The Show And The Books pt. 2
Compare The Show And The Books pts. 3 & 4
Compare The Show And The Books pt. 5

Long Live Roswell Books!
Long Live Fan Forum!

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