A few citable post-Lost posts for future scholarly discussion
last edited Saturday, May 29, 2010 by shapeshifter with intent to add more later
post by xmag: May 28, 2010 @ 10:57 am.
http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3195807&st=1575#
I just watched the pilot again, today. And I realized that part of the truth had always been there, right from the start. Locke is on the beach, Walt comes near to him and he explains to the child that the game in front of him is backgammon, how it's one of the most oldest games in the world, it's more than 5 000 years old and it's about good vs evil.
And that was what it was in the end. Good vs evil, and good won. The light was protected. I love sci-fi, believe me, I just watch as many of sci-fi shows as I can. But I don't think I would have been satisfied if the writers had come up with the story that the island was in fact some kind of tear in space and time, created accidentally by aliens visiting our planet, 5 000 years ago, and how they had built some sort of quantic shield to prevent it from swallowing Earth and the solar system. It would have been too down-to-earth for a show which had been so much about heart, pain, love, friendships, relationships, redemption and mystery like miracles and immortality. At least, in my opinion....
The rest doesn't bother me, what's the light exactly (although I understood that it was The Light, the one all humans meet when they die, the passage between life and death, without it, there's no life on Earth, the whole planet gets destroyed, starting with the island, as if it was swallowed by a blackhole and ceased to exist). That's all, for me.
AuntieLizard May 23, 2010 @ 10:43 pm Toronto
http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3195807&st=105#
Oh, and CORK literally meant cork, just like the donkey wheel meant a donkey wheel. (hand slap to the forehead)
Murre
http://www.slate.com/id/2242745/
posted within 72 hours of Lost finale
Ok, so I'll try once more, this time from the bottom up.
Assertion: The notion that the alternate world is an after-death experience
is a lie. It is actually a parallel world as originally advertised.
(Facts that the purgatory theory ignores marked with an *)
q- What makes you think it is a lie?
a- because it rests almost completely upon the word of Christian Shephard, who
is the Smoke Monster.
q- The Smoke monster? What makes you say that?
a- because the exact circumstances of its previous manifestations have been
painstakingly recreated by Desmond, i.e. a group of Jacob's candidates and a
significant corpse.
q- But those events happened on the Island where Smokey lived. How could they
happen in the church?
a- In Sideways world, the island has been destroyed, something that Smokey has
been fervently trying to accomplish in the main universe.* (In fact, when presented
with the choice of leaving or destroying the island, it chooses the latter.)
We know the island used to be there as Ben's father refers to it*. Thus, island
destroyed, Smokey is free from his cage. All he needs is the right circumstances
in another place of power. Eloise Hawking has informed us that those places
exist and that the church was built on one.*
q- What was Desmond's big rush?
a- Desmond is uniquely aware of happenings in both universes.(**!!) Thus he
is aware that they are happening concurrently. The entire point is that the
players have to be in the church at the same time as Desmond pulls the plug
in the prime universe.
q- What makes you think the events are happening concurrently?
a- I _believe_ that reviewing the season will emphasize this, but highlight
it, Jack has sympathetic wounds with his prime universe counterpart.
...Does anyone agree with me that the "you are dead" explanation was
just a ruse? Seeing as it came from the reanimated Christian? (Scroll down to
my previous post for my detailed explanation. It's not as coherent as it is
in my head.)
All the Sideways events that make "purgatory" explanation unsatisfactory,
actually mean something if you throw out that explanation as a lie perpetrated
by a newly manifested Smokie. Think about it. Please!
Gavin Edwards. From “The Secrets of Lost,” in Rolling Stone 984 (October 6, 2005):
THEY'RE MAKING IT UP AS THEY GO
The Lost creators have often claimed they know where the show is going and that everything will ultimately add up. Well, the current creators, anyway. “"There was absolutely no master plan on Lost," insists David Fury, a co-executive producer last season who wrote the series' two best episodes and is now a writer-producer on 24. "Anybody who said that was lying."
"On a show like Lost, it becomes a great big shaggy-dog story," he continues cheerily. “"They keep saying there's meaning in everything, and I'm here to tell you no,–a lot of things are just arbitrary. What I always tried to do was connect these random elements, to create the illusion that it was all adding up to something."”
Many plot elements were concocted on the fly, Fury says; for example, they didn't know Hurley won the lottery until it came time to write his episode. "I don't like to talk about when we come up with ideas," Lindelof demurs. "It's a magic trick. But we planned that plot. We seeded references to it in earlier episodes." Fury disagrees. He says scenes with those references were filmed much later and inserted into earlier yet-to-air episodes: "It's a brilliant trick to make us look smart. But doing that created a huge budget problem."
post by queenie0203: May 25, 2010 @ 10:51 am.
http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3195807&st=1215#
LOST has been bringing a chess game to my table for years. Every week we play chess, sometimes a good game, sometimes a bad. I got a lot of entertainment from praising or (honestly, mostly) grousing about the moves afterward, but it was our game. In between games, it asked me to knit a sweater made of all these different interesting and mounting threads. And I knitted on it every week and every week LOST praised it and encouraged my progress. Then, at the last, LOST brings a backgammon game to the table, and some of the game pieces are still chess pieces, but we are playing backgammon, yet LOST talks about how it loves chess and isn't chess a great game, as if it still thinks we are playing chess, but we are playing backgammon. And it's a cool game and we have fun playing it, it's a good game, but after all the chess, I'm like, wth...? But who won? I don't know, LOST just kind of organized all the pieces in a manner that didn't match either a chess or backgammon game and then closed it all up left, leaving who the winner may have been up to conjecture and my "interpretation."
As LOST was walking away with the game, I called out after it, "But wait, what about this unfinished sweater I've been knitting?" It answered, "What sweater?"
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