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Below is a classic sample of the posting of the CHADDs (Continuity Holes and Annoying Discrepancies Discussers) who included among their numbers some of the most hard core of type 2 fans described above. This sample is classic because it discusses the origin of an acronym that spread beyond the FanForum board by the end of Season 2 (as did "CHAD"), and that is EMHB (Evil Mindwarping Hell Beast), which coincidentally includes the first 2 letters of the first name of Emilie De Ravin, the actor who brought the infamous Tess to life.
This following theory could be described as:
The Necessity of the Evil Mindwarping Hell Beast, by Julie2525
Nasedo really was the Royal Four's protector and a loyalist to the King. The ship they were traveling on was sabotaged by Khivar's people so that it crashed on its journey to earth. Those on the ship were thrown into a state of confusion; some were captured, some killed, and the R8 were in danger. Four of them were sent to NY for protection; Nasedo was given control of the R4 and hid them in NM. He fought for years trying to keep the R4 safe, but had to face not only The Skins, but also the Special Unit threat as well. Back home, the political climate hadn't changed and over the next ten years it became clear that the chances were slim that this half-human boy on Earth could ever hope to defeat Khivar. Nasedo knew that sooner or later the Skins would catch up with him, and he would be dead when they did. Meanwhile, Khivar knew the people wouldn't rest until royal blood was on the throne. He decided that he needed a royal heir whom he could completely control, whose parent was on his side. So Khivar had Nicholas make a deal with Nasedo: If he agreed to turn over the pregnant Queen, the R4, and the Granolith, he would let Nasedo live and promote him to high office in the new government. Nasedo, tired from fighting an unwinnable battle alone on a planet he despised, agreed.
He couldn't risk the second set of Royals being raised as Khivar's enemies, however, so he traveled to New York and killed their protector. He couldn't kill the Dupes because he might need backups of the Royals in case something didn't work out with set in NM. By the time he got back to Roswell, Max, Isabel and Michael were already gone, and serendipitously, Tess remained. He decided that the odds of her mating with Max might actually be better if they were not raised together, which might make them feel like brother and sister.
So as soon as he determined that the R3 had homes and were not under suspicion, he left Roswell so as not to drawn attention to their location (he refused to tell Khivar where they were, since it was his only piece of leverage, and he knew he was being watched by the Skins, so it was best to stay away from Roswell). He took Tess with him around the country as he killed off the Special Unit and looked in on the Dupes, who believed he was their protector.
He did know the R3's locations in NM, however, and had been watching them for years, trying to decide the right moment to make his move (hence the box of pictures from TL&V). He realized the time had come following the incident with Ms. Parker; he knew that the FBI was on to them and he needed them alive until his plan was fulfilled. He decided they were in over their heads and it was time to make his presence known to them. Tess knew about the deal, but she hated Nasedo and had told him from the beginning that she would never agree to the plan. She secretly hoped that that Max, Michael and Isabel would be her family and that together, they could find some way to win the war. Nasedo humored her, but always insisted that the deal with Khivar would be the only way the two of them could survive.
When they came to Roswell, Nasedo's mission was clear: Get rid of the FBI threat and have Tess infiltrate the group and get close to Max. This was harder than they'd anticipated due to Max's relationship with Liz, so at Nasedo's suggestion, Tess worked some minor mindwarps to jumpstart Max's feelings for her. The rest of the year's events progressed as we saw them. Tess couldn't tell the gang about Nasedo's deal, because she knew they would never trust her if she did, and she felt they still needed Nasedo's protection from the FBI if they were going to survive. So she and Nasedo made a truce that they'd keep fighting as they had been, and she would try to get closer to Max, which they both wanted. Nasedo *did* in fact know how the orbs worked, but wasn't particularly inclined to tell the R4, since it would alert the rest of the Skins to their presence and might damage his leverage with Khivar. However, he knew he couldn't stop them without arousing suspicion, so he left and took his chances that the Skins wouldn't determine their exact location.
Over the summer, Whittaker, with whom Nasedo had always been in contact, became increasingly demanding about the identities of the R4, since (thanks to the orbs) they now knew they were located somewhere in Roswell. Nasedo was hesitant to give up this last piece of information, leading to a lot of anger and hostility between himself and the UFL. Whittaker put on the ruse of the Congressional Inquiry in order to pressure Nasedo to give up the identities of the R4 before the government tracked them down, but Nasedo outmaneuvered her and she was further angered when the Inquiry was dismissed. She decided to head to Roswell to look for them herself. She learned about the incident with Liz and decided that Max was the King. She no longer needed Nasedo and couldn't risk the possibility that he would betray the Skins and fight with the R4, so she killed him. Nasedo was outraged by the betrayal and out of spite, told Max about the Skins with his dying breath. Nasedo's death was a horrible shock to Tess. She realized now that if her seemingly invincible protector could be easily picked off, so could she. But she still loved Max and was forming relationships with the Valentis, so she decided to keep quiet and hoped that they could still find a way to win. Whitaker needed to contact the Queen to ensure that she was on board with the plan, so she learned her identity from Liz and kidnapped Tess. She knocked her around and tried to make her promise to work with the Skins, but Tess refused and was left a bloody mess on the floor. Isabel discovered Tess's disappearance and came to save her. Whittaker couldn't admit to her interest in Tess, which would arouse suspicion (and she knew how critical Tess was to Khivar's overall plan). So she lied and claimed that she was looking for Isabel, using the opportunity to punch holes in Isabel's confidence with the story about Vilandra.
After Whittaker was killed, Tess was again hopeful that they could fight the Skins and win. Nichoas still didn't know the location of the Granolith, and Tess refused to tell him. He couldn't kill Tess, or there went the Royal Heir, but he still wanted to know where the Granolith was so he would have Tess's last trump card and she would be forced to work with them. He fought the gang head on to learn the location of the Granolith, but failed. With Tess still not cooperating, the Husks destroyed, and his plan in "Wipeout!" thwarted, Nicholas decided to concoct a new plan. The Dupes, who knew everything about Nasedo's deal and their chances at surviving Khivar's army, were willing to work with him. He approached Lonnie and Rath, the most unscrupulous of the bunch, and told them that they could go home if they killed Zan and delivered Max to the summit. Nicholas hoped that if Max took the deal, he could get Tess and Max back home without having Tess's cooperation at all. Tess was utterly panicked and didn't know what to do; she couldn't tell Max about the Dupes or the plan for the Royal Heir, because that would implicate her, too, and he would never understand why she hadn't told him about Nasedo's deal. She decided that if Max did take the deal, she would quickly mindwarp everyone in the room and arrange for her and Max to escape. But she must seem completely ignorant and impartial, or else it will seem too suspicious to Max. After he turned down the deal and they leave, Nicholas decided that Max would never cooperate, and as the Royal Heir wasn't absolutely vital so much as something they'd like to see happen, he might as well have the Dupes attempt an assaination. He told the Dupes that if they failed and Max survived, they should confront Tess and put the fear of God in her about her chances for survival without cooperating with Khivar. Max lived, and the Dupes took Tess to the sewers and told her that they were willing to kill Max, so she should know that they'd be willing to kill her too, and forget all about the Royal Heir. This terrified Tess, and she knew that she was out of options. There was no way the four of them could defeat Khivar, and despite everything that happened in EOTW, she realized that Max will never love her the way he loves Liz anyway. In her mind, there are only two things that can happen: Either they will all be killed by Khivar, or she and her child will live, while Max, Isabel and Michael die. She knew their mission was hopeless, so reluctantly, she agreed to start cooperating with the Skins. She still loved the Valentis and felt warmly towards the others in the group, but felt she had no choice.
Nasedo, who knew that Tess was rebellious and uncooperative, never told her how to operate the Granolith. She still had the Destiny Book however, and knew that she couldn't leave town to decode it without arousing suspicion, so she arranged to have Alex go to Las Cruces to decode the book. After she accidentally killed him, she really snapped, and knew there was absolutely no turning back. If her deception was discovered, Max would cast her off, there would be no chance for a Royal Heir, and her usefulness to Khivar would be gone. She must get pregnant, immediately. She slept with Max, conceived his son, and then mindwarped him into believing that the baby was sick and they must go home immediately. She was relieved when Michael refused to go; after all, she didn't want any of them to be killed, and hoped that Khivar might settle for she and Max and their son. There was no way she could warn Isabel without telling her the truth, so she tried to accept that Isabel would probably die. She hated what she was doing, but felt it was the only way she and her child could survive. Perhaps she even harbored hope that once back home, on a planet where Max had many followers and they were no longer fighting alone, they might all survive. Even if she and Max were killed, their son would survive, since Khivar wanted him alive. Perhaps one day he might usurp Khivar's power and defeat him, her people would be saved, and Royal Order would be restored.
When Max finally confronted Tess, she confessed everything, because a part of her still loves him and hated what she was doing. But she did the only thing she felt she could do, other than lie down and wait for Khivar to kill them all one by one. At least this way, a few of them stood a chance.
And that's the end of my theory. Yes, I glazed over all the Alex/Sweden/Las Cruces stuff, but it's the only way I can think of to explain the "Tess is evil" development in a way that makes sense with past episodes.
Although not seen as often as we like, Liz's importance seemed to be even more firmly cemented in season two.
------------------ From Nebraska Qfanny/MOB14 Liz is not an alien
Below we have Theories presented by Nemo, a regular poster on the Importance of Liz to the Alien Mythology thread and other threads that include discussions of word meanings, philosophy, numerology and science fiction.
Customarily, by this time the Science Fiction thread would be open to SF ideas from any episode. I'd like to revisit the mystery of the inverted handprint in the Pilot (despite having covered this ground already :rolleyes: ) because I've found some further illustrations.
In summary, I think the upside-down handprint on Liz is not a blooper but a clue: that with these aliens there is something strange about space - probably having to do with higher dimensions. Now, what's the evidence for this interpretation?
First, let's get clear about the phenomenon, since (to quote Maria) "there's been some confusion." The handprint has its palm and fingers in about the right place, but the thumb is down instead of up, making it a right hand; whereas Max healed Liz with his left hand.
(Screen caps from The Pilot courtesty of theddd.net)
The mirror view (reversed, as expected) agrees with the direct ones: the print is always on Liz's right side, fingers outward, thumb below. So the mirror does not create any new discrepancies, but it also doesn't explain the original one.
This strange inversion makes the handprint seem all the more alien. But how does this hint at higher dimensions? Just that a fourth dimension would allow a 3-dimensional object to be "rotated" into a mirror image of itself (deduced by Möbius in 1827), just as our usual 3 dimensions allow a flat object (close to 2-dimensional) to be flipped over, reversing its handedness. (Picture a gingerbread cookie shaped like a left hand: flipping it over makes it a right hand. To us in 3 dimensions, it's just a different view of the same cookie, but to an imaginary 2-D creature on the cookie sheet, left- and right-handed cookies would be different objects, as uninterchangeable as left and right shoes are to us.)
The idea of right-left reversals as evidence of extra dimensions has been used in stories, e.g. The Plattner Story (1896) by H.G. Wells, and The Image in the Mirror (~1930), by Dorothy L. Sayers. Martin Gardner, in The New Ambidextrous Universe, tells of a time when people who claimed to have visited the fourth dimension would exhibit objects that had supposedly been left-right reversed as proof of their journey.
[Here's a further 4-D reference by Ivars Peterson, esp. the 2nd page.]
It might be objected that even the 4-D rotation idea really doesn't cover the present case. Liz would have to disappear at least briefly, then return as a mirror image of herself (heart now on the right, etc.). This would reverse the handedness of the mark on her, but would also move it to her left side, and still wouldn't turn it upside down. Strictly judged, the theory fails. But compared with other Roswellian science (e.g. a walk-in cyclotron for dramatic visual effect), it seems to match the style.
There are other indications of something like higher dimensions in the story. During the visions when Michael was sick, we see him disappearing behind thin air, as if he has stepped into some parallel world. Later, something similar befalls the humans in Roswell. Courtney says that on the aliens' world time exists in multiple subsets. But the weirdest thing is that Nasedo's remains undergo two left-right reversals before disintegrating.
(screen cap courtesy Momo
)
(He changes as seen here -- compare the bloodstains -- then changes back. Note that the dialog contains the word 'reverse' as well as 'disintegrated' at about this time.) Because this looks deliberate, I think the reversed handprint in the Pilot was also.
Since my references are from decades ago, I wonder whether similar effects have been used in more recent stories?
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Posts: 873 Registered: Dec 99 GraceKel, you asked how my views on the story have changed since last year. Well, some ideas seem to be abandoned, like the 2-Nasedo theory. (Though maybe not totally ruled out.) Others now seem doubtful but maybe still open, such as the possibility of some hidden significance of Grandma Claudia. The seeming evidence that something was up with her was the first thing that made me take this thread seriously - I didn't believe it at first, but when so many background clues that looked deliberate seemed to point to Grandma's death being partly alien-related, I thought you all must be right - apparently there is something we don't know yet about Liz or her family that somehow relates to the aliens, or else why would one of them bother about Grandma?
I have almost given up the idea that Tess might not be the real bride. But not quite, because I still wonder why the writers worked in Alex's reference to the Cuckoo's Nest.
A few things did work out. Last summer I predicted the story would involve time travel, and now it has. (Though not in the way I imagined; also it looks like I misread some of the clues, like Atherton's calendar, or Max altering the Venus clock.) I construed the upside-down handprint on Liz in the Pilot not as blooper but as clue that the alien side of the story would involve higher dimensions (which allow left-right reversals). That seemed to be confirmed when we saw the same sort of thing more emphatically this year: check out Nasedo's remains undergoing left-right reversals during the futile attempt at healing - the long bloodstain is first on one side of his face, then the other, then back. (Any chance of a pair of screencaps?) Although some called this another blooper, it's hard for me to believe it wasn't intentional. (Just for fun, notice also that he reverses about the time Max uses the word "reverse" and disintegrates just after Michael tells of the disintegration of the piece of skin he found in the desert.) Also in Wipe-Out we hear of something akin to multi-dimensions - time existing "in multiple subsets" into which the humans have disappeared.
I also suspected someone was hiding 3's and 4's in the musical key signatures, and in Las Vegas we got one more 4 when Maria asked Alex to accompany her in the key of E (4 sharps).
Over against these seeming successes, we have Liz's dictum, from her fortune cookie at Señor Chow's, that even a broken clock is right twice a day.
The biggest change in my thinking is that the story seems to be more improvised, with less of a long-term plan than I thought. As a fan of detective stories (esp. Dorothy L. Sayers), I thought the mysteries would have an solution that could (at least in retrospect) could be seen in clues from the beginning. Now I suspect many of the clues are more generic, less specific than I thought. Also, the big picture has grown so complicated I don't try to deal with it much, I just wait and see. Meanwhile, I look for smaller connections.
Also, it looks as if coincidence may account for more of these supposed connections than I thought, especially in the number patterns. I told about finding lots of similar patterns on a trip to the beach. Next trip, a few days ago, we took a hike along a mountain river, and scores of trilliums were silently chanting 3, 3 while the dogwoods were answering 4, 4. So coincidence may be more common than I thought, but probably still not the explanation for everything. So the sport continues.
By stargaze 02-27-2001, 05:15 PM
2. The wedding flash. I think that both theories are very interesting. At first I thought that Liz had somehow sent him the image, since I'm sure it was all she could think about since the trip began. But it didn't have the same look and feel as any of the other flashes that either of them ahve gotten. But I like LSS theory that it may be something like Tess' mind warping, since I think as they all mature they will probably gain each other's powers. So now we just have to wait for Tess to start dreamwaking and Isabel to start astral projecting!
But the parallel timeline theory is also a good one. I think that the residual memory would be strongest in the physical space that it occurred in the other timeline. The only problem I have with this theory is that I thought they were 19 when they eloped (according to FM). And I would believe the residual memory more if it had occurred during the same time period in this timeline. Did that make sense? Which makes me go for the Liz mind warp as a more plausible theory.
quote:Originally posted by LSS:
...
2. RESIDUAL MEMORIES FROM OTHER LIFETIMES. We are treated to a sweet dreamer
moment when Max "remembers" or has a memory flash of a previous timeline--a
timeline inhabitied by the Future Max who is no moreI was thrilled with
this part... for a number of reasons not the least of which was that it
meant my favorite theory was a dream come true, namely that Young Max recognized
Young Liz because he "remembered" her. ...
I guess mine [qfanny's] is FM was a mindwarp and the pentagon damaged Tess's
powers and my explanation of the Dupes being originals
yet inferior to the R4.
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If there is another Granolith, where do you think it would be? A. Riverdog's reservation B. Las Cruces Universtiy C. Crashdown basement D. Other
I'd vote "C", because if it ever took off again, it would destroy the Crashdown, and that would be interesting to see. (Not that I want to see that happen anytime soon.)
Besides, we'd have to come up with all sorts of Liz importance theories as to how it got there in the first place!
quote:Originally posted by Luna G:
With Kivar going to all this trouble and expense to obtain the granolith, I think it is most likely that there is only one because they don't have the capability to make another. My theory is that the granolith is a leftover piece of technology from a prior galactic culture. The people on the podsters' home world found it, and used it, but don't really understand it.
Hence the fact that it is regarded as a "religious" device, like the holy grail of the podsters homeworld, and Max, the "once and future king". If the granolith was found by the aliens in ages past, possibly while they were still a primitive culture, it would hold mystical connections for them.
Ownership of the granolith would convey great power in this framework, perhaps the reason that their government is still in the form of a monarchy. /
This explanation explains why the thing would be considered a religious object more than any other theory out there.
By shapeshifter and/or JLinderhof 03-10-2001, 01:13 PM
Unfortunately, with the posting of the wonderful new wealth of http://silverhandprint.com/media material (none of which seems to address time travel), I think our time travel discussions are going to go dormant for a while.
We did touch on The Granolyth's time travel abilities when it was proposed that it was a FTL matter transmitter/receiver. (Such a device would have to be active in time, as well as space, due to its FTL nature.) FMax said that its use as a time machine was due to a modification by "Sabrina". Using it as a time machine was described as an afterthought.
On the other hand, your suggestion to use it primarily as a time machine makes good sense. It answers the 50 year time lapse problem, as well as the difficulties with the war being current. Going back 53 years with the space ship (also possible as a side effect of FTL travel), then doubling back toward the future to settle the podsters, is a clever idea.
We still need to address the problem of The Granolyth being unique. Why is there only one? Why didn't Mom (or Kivar) just build another?
by Momo on blu5.com:
Returning to the Granilithy ...
While Katims has more or less said that the Granilith is merely a spaceship
(but can we trust that ... really), I believe there is something more to
the Granilith. The KISS principle does not seem to apply here. Why? Because
of Lonnie's statement (to paraphrase: Our people worship it like The Holy
Grail or something.) It does not make sense for an empire to worship a spaceship.
I just don't buy it. An alien intelligence that appears to be as sophicated
technologically as they are is not going to worship a spaceship like "The
Holy Grail".
So there is something more to the Granilith that we have not been told and
I don't think it's the last we've seen of The Pod Chamber or The Granilith.
Do I think it's a religious object. No, although the reference to "The Holy
Grail" is definitely symbolic. But symbolic of what? Well, I'm sticking
with the Arthurian approach here. "The Holy Grail" was a revenerated object,
but it's symbolic. It refers to the regeneration of life. From the myths,
we know the Percival and his counterparts had to find the Grail in order
to "heal the King". The secret of the Grail is that "the land and the king
are one". In this case, Max the King, Antar the land. Max is the rightful
king of Antar. More importantly, when applying the myth to Roswell, is the
fact that the land (Antar) is plagued (by war) and that the King is incapicated
(ill, wounded or both). In Max's case, it's his inertia and his amnesia
regarding his past life). So how does the Granilith as Grail apply to Max?
Well, maybe in several ways. We know from Liz that is is powerful; from
FMax that is can be adapted for time travel; and possibily from Courtney,
that it could save her life (how unknown). We know that Nicholas is highly
interested in it, but that Lonnie, who wanted to go home, wasn't. It implies
that Lonnie KNEW what the Granilith was. So if Lonnie's prime objective
was to go home and the Granilith was merely a spaceship, Lonnie would have
jumped on the first flight home. So I'm thinking that the Granilith was
NEVER the spaceship and that our poor ignorant pod squad MISTAKENLY identified
the spaceship as the Granilith.
If that is the case, what exactly is the Granilith, if not the spaceship?
In reviewing the tapes, I discovered another angle of the Pod Chamber which
really gives us the scope and size of The Pod Chamber. What interested most
is that there does appear to be more to The Pod Chamber that the standard
shots we come to know. This reinforces the idea that The Pod Chamber has
more to reveal.
From Surprise, we know that the alledged Granilith was hidden behind the
Pod Squad incubator. We know this because Isabel breaks the membrane on
the far side and we see her crawling to the other side. It's only then that
we realize that there is something BEHIND it. There we have the door which
is then automatically opened to reveal "The Granilith".
However, to the left of the pods, there is also something else in The Pod
Chamber, but I'm not sure what it is (I think this view is from Four Square
and you have to freeze frame it to see the entire room). So it's possible
that there is something else in the Pod Chamber, another room or another
object or both. The other theory is that the Granilith represents only a
portion of the Granilith, sort of like what the shuttle is the the Enterprise
(for comparison sake only).
The purpose of the Granilith appears to be multi-faceted.
It's capable of launching a spaceship.
It's capable of being modified for time travel.
It's possible to that it is used to create hybrids.
It's possible that it can be used for weather control.
It's possible that it could be a mass weapon of destruction.
The possiblities are endless ... but if it's "A Holy Grail" then it is regarded
as "a salvation" for its people, so I'm thinking its use ultimately preserves
life on a grand scale. It was probably entrusted to Max because if it did
fall into the wrong hands, such technologies could be misused to cause mass
destruction or to hold worlds and/or galaxies hostage (a la Star Wars' Death
Star). The reference to the death of the red giant in season 2 makes me
suspect that the Skins are abusing technological power. Remember how the
science teacher says how unusual this particular case was, "unheard of in
the galaxy". It implies that the death of this particular star was untimely
and because Max is also "haunted" by this, we must take this as a possible
clue that intergalatic war with the Skins is effecting their galaxy on a
grand scale -- that the destruction of life as they know it has harmed the
balance of the eco-systems and that the five worlds are now paying the price
for it.
The Granilth could be "the Salvation" if its power is so great that it could
create "pansmersia on a grand scale -- seeding dying planets with the stuff
of life, create life (a la the Genesis project from Star Trek). And that's
what The Holy Grail does. It creates life from death.
-- Basically states that Tess and Ava were switched as little podsters by Nacedo, and that Ava is Good, but Tess is Evil...
By Metaphysicalgrl 05-23-2001, 05:40 PM
So to summarize:
- Lonnie and Rath distract Max in MITC while they snatch Tess and bring her to the warehouse where Nicholas implants the memories in her head of a deal Nasedo made with Khivar 40 years ago where Tess is to deliver Max's baby, along with the other 3 to Khivar via: The Granolith.
- Tess becomes a puppet for the enemies, because she believes these memories to be real.
- She reveals to Nicholas, Lonnie and Rath about the existence of the Destiny book.Figuring the Destiny book would provide them with an idea of what the Queen had planned for the royal 4 and the key to transporting the Granolith they decide to decode it.
- Tess suggest using Alex because Alex had already applied for this semester abroad thing, it made sense that they could easily explain his absence from Roswell and get him into the Las Cruces lab (to use the Quantum Computer) without any suspicion.
- Lonnie, Nicholas and Rath figure out that the Destiny book included directions on how to use the Granolith. The Granolith, IS a religious icon like previously described, but because of it's enormous power it can also be used, one time, as a way home. This is one of the reasons why it was sent to earth with the podsters...so that when the time came, they would have a way home. However, there is more to the Granolith then just a means of transport. (by the way, just for good measure, how do we know that the Granolith even took Tess back to Antar. Maybe, just maybe, it transported her somewhere else - another subset time dimension perhaps?)
- They devise a plan to get the Granolith back to Khivar -- that may or may not include the addition of a royal heir. I still have no idea whether the pregnancy is real, or a way to manipulate Max into going with Tess back home with the others. Knowing Max would do the right thing -- they were counting on him going with her and bringing Isabelle and Max.
- Tess seduces Max and gets pregnant (or makes it seem like she is pregnant) so that when the Destiny book translation is conveniently uncovered, she has a reason to get Max to use the Granolith to return home. All of that crap about how the baby couldn't survive on this planet was exactly what it seemed...a plan by Tess to get Max to use the Granolith and return home. Whether or not she's pregnant still remains to be seen.
- Now, the Granolith takes off with Tess, leaving the podsters to think she was evil (when she really wasn't) and Khivar will once again be in posession of the Granolith...and maybe the royal heir. However, his plan was foiled as Max, Michael and Isabelle remain on earth. Stay tuned for Season 3.....
about Michael's dream:
Why did this dream so frighted him?
In past life he was killed. Killed for not betraying Zan. Maybe in the past somehow giving him some bribe too, like now the Duprees?
And analogy was aroused his memory?
He is frightened because he does not want to be killed this life?(who want ?)
He wants to escape, escape from himself, from alien past - have fun, do something to forget?
By haniczka 05-23-2001, 09:20 AM
Zero, did Sean just get his ear pierced? Odd timing. Kyle says it could
be seen as "gay" and Sean says he has to get out of this town. I don't know
what to make of Sean at all. I liked my theory best: Sean is Zan. I know
that's ridiculous.
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I guess we should have known what would happen with Tess when they compared
Max to JFK.
And we compared Max to King Arthur, who's kingdom was destroyed by his own
son, conceived with his sister.
Too bad they don't send SpoT back in time and make him Khivar.
j/k
Though then it would almost make sense why Khivar even cared that Max and
Tess have a son...
Besides then while Max was off searching for another granolith/Holy Grail,
Liz would have to fall in love with Max's best friend. And where would that
leave Maria?
I've got an idea that I already posted on the Chad & Zero thread. Let me
know what you think... What if Jen was "abducted" by "Leanna" like Brody
was "abducted" by Larek. That would explain why Jen doesn't seem to know
anything. But also allows Tess to have some help in Las Cruces.
collected by sablaine (Windstorm/Laura)
"Find Out The Truth" by Raychell75 Theory 1: Alex is not dead. Alex's death was staged using a husk. He is now secretly working undercover for the "royal four." Theory 2: Liz is really the one "destined" to be Max's wife. In a past life on Antar, she was his "soulmate", his betrothed, and their marriage would have brought peace to their peoples. Only due to her untimely death, was her SISTER Ava/Tess forced to take her place as bride to the King. There was no love between Zan and Ava. Theory 3: When Vilandra/Isabel discovered Kivar's true plans/plots against the King and the people of Antar, she attempted to stop him. At this point she was no longer useful to Kivar and he killed her. That is why she was one of the "royal four" sent to Earth to live again. Theory 4: The skins loyalties are split in two. Half of the skins support Kivar. The other half support the original leaders and wish to see the balance of power restored. These latter half wish to join and protect the "royal four" until that time that they are ready to battle Kivar for their rightful places on Antar. Theory 5: Liz does have alien powers, but most of these are latent. She will develop them as time goes by. The ones she does have now are still weak: ie., being able to sense the presense of others.
From the Crashdown: http://www.crashdown.com/fanfic/max_liz
"A New Breed" by Susan Theory 1: The "royal four" have different powers because they have different blood types. Their blood, as well as other body fluids, contain these energy cells that give them power. Theory 2: It is possible for a human to conceive and carry a "hybrid" child. The greatest obstacle being that the child would need a great deal of these alien energy cells to survive and would be unable to get them from it's human mother. The alien father would, therefore, have to give frequent "feedings" or energy transfers to the growing child within his mate's womb.
"Back From Vegas But Far From Home" by Destinee Theory 1: The reason there were two sets of the "pod squad" was because they knew that only one set would retain their memories of their previous life. Unfortunately, the one who retained then were the ones in New York and they abused those memories.
"Mother's Know Best" by Susan Theory 1: The reason Max can make Liz "glow" is because she is his "soulmate". He cannot do that to anyone else, not even when he tries his best, not even to Tess.
"A Connection" by Susan Theory 1: Only by forging stronger and stronger bonds with their human loves, will the "pod squad" be able to receive information about their past lives. They forge these bonds and receive this information (in the form of flashes and actual messages) through physical intimacy.
"Strong, Dangerous & Undeniable" by Destinee Theory 1: Liz was changed by Max when he healed her, just like Ava said, but she has to be TAUGHT to use her powers. She is afraid to use them because these powers are not human; she has to get over that. (It is likely that Kyle has these powers too.)
(from greg5):
From Momo:
Posted 07-18-2002 06:21 PM by shapeshifter
... re TEOTW and the necessity of Liz changing...
FM told Liz he needed her to make his younger self fall out of love with her because he needed to be with Tess to save the world.
Liz then comes to the realization that the only thing that would make Max fall out of love with her was if she was intimate with another guy.
So, what if FL's ultimate plan ("Max, you have to do this") was to make younger Liz fall out of love with younger Max because (as we have speculated previously) after they cemented, Liz ceased to "change," and so didn't have the powers necessary to make the four a "complete unit" so they could save the world.
FL knew the only way to make younger Liz fall out of love with younger Max (which was the only way to prevent cementing and allow her to grow/change) was if Max was with Tess.
FM knew he would never get together with Tess unless younger Liz made his younger self fall out of love with her, and that she would only do it to save others.
The reason FM went back instead of FL was because FL hadn't changed and so wasn't suited to riding in the granolith...